Specific Heat of Water - What is the Heat Capacity?

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The discussion revolves around the specific heat capacity of water, particularly in the context of a homework problem involving heat transfer between copper and water. Participants explore calculations related to heat capacity and specific heat, addressing units and conversions.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Historical

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a calculation involving the heat transfer from copper to water, attempting to find the specific heat of water based on given data.
  • Another participant questions the consistency of the answer regarding the mass of water and its relation to specific heat capacity.
  • A later reply acknowledges previous errors in units and clarifies that the question was actually about specific heat capacity in J*mol*°C, leading to a corrected calculation.
  • One participant reflects on historical aspects of heat capacity, recalling past educational experiences and the concept of the mechanical equivalent of heat.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct interpretation of the problem initially, with some confusion regarding units and calculations. However, there is a recognition of the correct specific heat value of water in the later posts.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the clarity of units in the initial calculations, as well as the dependence on the definitions of specific heat and heat capacity. Some mathematical steps remain unresolved or unclear.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students studying thermodynamics, specifically those dealing with heat transfer problems and specific heat calculations in chemistry or physics contexts.

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Homework Statement



What is the heat capacity of water in J*g*°C

Homework Equations

A 74.8 sample of copper at 143.2g
is added to an insulated vessel containing 165ml of water, Density of water = 1.00 at 25.0 °C.
The final temperature is 29.7° C
The specific heat of copper is 0.385 J*g*°C.

The Attempt at a Solution



g of water =165g
quantity of heat= mass of substance * specific heat* temperature change
heat capacity = C (mass of substance * specific heat)

quantity of heat of copper = 74.5g*0.3858(29.7-143) =-3.268*10^-3
so, isn't this the same quantity of heat of water? if so, this how i tried to do it

165g of h2o* specific heat*(29.7-25)= 3.268*10^-3

specific heat =4.2147
so, 165*4.21= 700...
but that's wrong, the right answer is 74.5g HELP PLEASE!
 
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How come right answer is 74.5 g if the question is about specific heat capacity (which you calculated earlier)?
 
YES! So sorry, I wrote that all wrong and didn't know how to fix it! my units weren't correct.

It took me a while to see my errors but i managed to solve it. In reality, they were asking for J*mol*°C
In order to calculate that we just simple do the following
the total quantity heat of copper which is 74.8*0.385*(143.2-29.7)
q of copper = -3268.57 -->-3.26*10^-3
so like no energy can be destroyed or created, the total quantity of heat for water is the opposite which is 3.26*10^-3
with that being said, now we could calculate the heat capacity and then turn them into moles.
which is done by the following,
3268.7 J*g*°C = 165g of H2O * specific heat* (29.7°C-25°C)
3268.7J*g*°C= Specific heat *775.50

Specific heat of water = 4.21 J*g*°C , NOW i need to convert that into moles of by multiplying by the molar mass of H2O (18g).

Final answer is 4.21 * 18 = 75.85 ≈75.9 J*mol*°C

Thanks for answering anyways!
 
Mynah myah that took me back to school, especially the number which I remembered, let's see that was 4.1 something and then I see 4.12 and it came back. Because that is what used to be called The Mechanical Equivalent of Heat and memory is of countless boring exercises on it converting calories into joules etc. (I think we may even done some of them with non-metric units like food-pounds as well).

There seemed to be even an ideological aura attached to it because it was about Work not fun or other vanities and came from the no-nonsense working industrial city of Manchester.

I had not realized till today that Joule's work had generated so much heat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_equivalent_of_heat
 
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