Speed, Acceleration and Time - SUVAT Equations and Speed Time Graph

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a car traveling with a constant velocity followed by a period of deceleration. The original poster seeks to determine the car's velocity at specific times and the total distance traveled after a set duration. Additionally, they inquire about how to represent this scenario graphically with acceleration and speed-time graphs.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of velocity at 8 and 12 seconds, with some suggesting methods to find total distance traveled by considering both constant velocity and deceleration phases.
  • There are questions regarding the distinction between distance traveled and displacement, prompting participants to clarify the problem's requirements.
  • Some participants propose drawing diagrams to visualize the motion and areas under the graphs to aid in understanding the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the problem being explored. Some participants have provided calculations and graphical representations, while others have pointed out potential misunderstandings in the original poster's approach. There is no explicit consensus on the correct interpretation or solution yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the wording of the problem may be confusing, particularly regarding the deceleration phase and its implications for calculating distance. The original poster's initial calculations appear to have led to discrepancies in understanding the total distance traveled.

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Homework Statement



In 4 seconds a car travels with constant velocity of 50m/s. After 4 seconds the car decelerates at 10m/s^2 until velocity = 0. What is the velocity at 8 and 12 seconds and what is the distance traveled after 12 seconds?

Also how would I draw the acceleration time graph and relate that to a speed time graph?

Homework Equations



f(t)=U(t)+a(t^2/2)=s


The Attempt at a Solution



But this does not seem to give me the correct answer. I was told the total distance is 370 meters
 
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8 seconds total is 4 seconds after the deceleration starts. So the velocity at t=8s is equal to 50 m/s - 4 s ( 10 m/s2 ) = 10 m/s

12-4=8 so 50 m/s - 8 s ( 10 m/s2 ) = -30 m/s, however the deceleration end at v= 0 m/s. So the speed actually is 0 m/s.

To find the total distance traveled one has to find to the moment the car first has speed v=0. To do that solve the equation: 50 m/s - tstop ( 10 m/s2 ) = 0
Solving gives tstop = 5 s (actually 5 s for the moment deceleration so 9 seconds total)
The average speed traveled is (50 m/s + 0 m/s)/2 = 25 m/s (this work only if the deceleration or accelaration is constant)
The distance traveled during deceleration is 25 m/s * 5 s = 125 meters
The distance traveled before deceleration is 50 m/s * 4 s = 200 meters
The total distance traveled is 325 meters.

An acceleration vs time chart would look like this (x-axis should be t-axis):
http://www4c.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP20271a1ifb1cc14f2e4i000043e243867d21fe1a?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=41&w=290&h=123&cdf=RangeControl

A speed vs time chart would look like this (x-axis should be t-axis):
http://www4c.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP731a1ifd56g88acbe20000156h79ga9hi13fed?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=37&w=290&h=136&cdf=RangeControl

A location vs time chart would look like this:
http://www4c.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP6251a1ifd95dbc17f8b00006842i3gc0ig97h33?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=26&w=287&h=127&cdf=RangeControl
 
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Zaal post is not correct.
The question is the distance traveled not displacement.
Try to draw the diagram.
Start with constant velocity of 50m/s
At t=4secs, draw line with gradient -10 till t=12sec.
Add the areas(both sides taken as positive, since it is distance covered) and you get the answer.
 
azizlwl said:
Zaal post is not correct.
The question is the distance traveled not displacement.
Try to draw the diagram.
Start with constant velocity of 50m/s
At t=4secs, draw line with gradient -10 till t=12sec.
Add the areas(both sides taken as positive, since it is distance covered) and you get the answer.

Sorry I made one mistake I corrected it (I forgot to add the distance traveled before deceleration).
PS Don't forget v=0 for t>9
 
Your graph should be extended till t=12sec
The distance =4(50)+(50)(50)/20 +1/2(10)(3)2 =200+125+45=370m
 
azizlwl said:
Your graph should be extended till t=12sec
The distance =4(50)+(50)(50)/20 +1/2(10)(3)2 =200+125+45=370m

You ignore the following sentence of the problem:

After 4 seconds the car decelerates at 10m/s^2 until velocity = 0.

The wording of the problem is confusing.

ehild
 

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