Speed of a bead turned through X degrees

In summary: Essentially, you are calculating the vertical displacement of the bead from the reference height at the bottom of the loop, which is taken as zero potential energy. So when the bead is at the bottom of the loop, its height is zero. As it moves up, its height increases, and as it moves down, its height decreases. Therefore, to find the vertical height at any given angle, you need to subtract the vertical component of the radius from the original radius, as shown in your calculation.
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Homework Statement


A small bead is threaded on a smooth circular wire of radius r which is fixed in a vertical plane. The bead is projected from the lowest point of the wire with speed √6gr. FInd the speed of the bead when it has turned through: (a) 60°, (b) 90°, (c) 180°, (d) 300°.

Answers: (a) √5gr, (b) √4gr, (c) √2gr, (d) √5gr

2. The attempt at a solution
While this question is explained here, I do not understand one part. Why PE = m * g * h = m * g * (r - r * cos(θ)). Specifically h = r - r * cos(θ)? Why isn't it equal to just h = r cos 60°?

Taking this image (as I see the problem):
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We have φ = 60°. R is h and equals to r cos 60°, where r is the adjacent line to the angle. Why the correct height h is r - r cos 60° and not just r cos 60°?
 
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The potential energy is taken as zero when ##\phi=0## So you want h to be the height above the reference height zero. ##h - h_0 = ...##
 
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h is the vertical height of the bead above the bottom of the wire loop, as explained by BvU.
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Your picture indicates that the loop is rotating about the vertical axis with angular velocity ##\Omega##. But, apparently the problem wants you to assume the loop is not rotating.
 
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TSny said:
h is the vertical height of the bead above the bottom of the wire loop, as explained by BvU. Your picture indicates that the loop is rotating about the vertical axis with angular velocity ##\Omega##. But, apparently the problem wants you to assume the loop is not rotating.
What would be the correct graphical representation of the problem? Could you please give an example?

And with your image I think I got it. If we take two positions h = 0 at α = 0 and r = 10 cm (for example). When the bead moves to α = 60° the height is not 0, since the bead is in the air (if we take h = 0 as the moment when the bead is on the ground). In order to find h we need to subtract 10 cos 60° from the original radius, which is equal to 10. So h = 10 - 10 cos 60 = 5 cm. Is this the right logic?
 
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If we take two positions h = 0 at α = 0 and r = 10 cm (for example). When the bead moves to α = 60° the height is not 0, since the bead is in the air (if we take h = 0 as the moment when the bead is on the ground). In order to find h we need to subtract 10 cos 60° from the original radius, which is equal to 10. So h = 10 - 10 cos 60 = 5 cm. Is this the right logic?
Yes, that's right.
 
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1. What is the formula for calculating the speed of a bead turned through X degrees?

The formula for calculating the speed of a bead turned through X degrees is: speed = (2 * PI * radius * X) / (time * 360), where PI is approximately 3.14159, radius is the distance between the center of rotation and the bead, and time is the amount of time it takes for the bead to complete the rotation.

2. Does the speed of the bead depend on the direction of rotation?

Yes, the speed of the bead does depend on the direction of rotation. If the bead is rotating clockwise, the speed will be negative, and if it is rotating counterclockwise, the speed will be positive.

3. How does the radius of the bead affect its speed?

The radius of the bead directly affects its speed. The larger the radius, the faster the bead will travel through the same degree of rotation. This is because the larger radius covers a greater distance in the same amount of time compared to a smaller radius.

4. Can the speed of the bead be changed by altering the time it takes to complete the rotation?

Yes, the speed of the bead can be changed by altering the time it takes to complete the rotation. The longer the amount of time, the slower the bead will travel through the same degree of rotation. Similarly, a shorter amount of time will result in a faster speed.

5. Is the speed of the bead affected by other factors besides time and radius?

The speed of the bead can also be affected by the force applied to rotate it and the surface it is rotating on. Friction and other external forces can impact the speed of the bead, making it different from the calculated speed based on time and radius alone.

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