Speed of Block After Falling 0.5m: 3.0 m/s

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The problem involves a block tied to a string wrapped around a pulley, with the goal of finding the speed of the block after it has fallen a certain height. The context includes concepts of energy conservation and rotational dynamics, specifically focusing on the moment of inertia of the pulley.

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  • Participants discuss the application of energy conservation principles, questioning the correctness of the expressions used for kinetic and potential energy. There is also exploration of the moment of inertia for the pulley and its relevance to the problem.

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Some participants are actively questioning the expressions for rotational kinetic energy and the moment of inertia, suggesting a need for clarification on these concepts. There appears to be a productive dialogue regarding the correct application of formulas and the implications of the axis of rotation.

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Participants note the presence of different expressions for the moment of inertia of a disk, highlighting the importance of the axis of rotation in determining which expression to use in this scenario.

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A 1.3kg block is tied to a string that is wrapped around the rim of a pulley of radius 7.2cm. The block is released from rest. (a) Assuming the pulley is a uniform disk with a mass of 0.31kg, find the speed of the block after is has fallen through a height of 0.5m.

Answer = 3.0 m/s

I can't seem to find the right answer (above). I set this equation below. I tried to use Ki+Ui=Kf+Uf with Ki and Uf being zero

Mass(of ball) x gravity x height = 1/2mv^2 x (1+ I/mr^2) with I = 3/2mr^2 and m= mass of pulley
 
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kaka2007 said:
A 1.3kg block is tied to a string that is wrapped around the rim of a pulley of radius 7.2cm. The block is released from rest. (a) Assuming the pulley is a uniform disk with a mass of 0.31kg, find the speed of the block after is has fallen through a height of 0.5m.

Answer = 3.0 m/s

I can't seem to find the right answer (above). I set this equation below. I tried to use Ki+Ui=Kf+Uf with Ki and Uf being zero

Mass(of ball) x gravity x height = 1/2mv^2 x (1+ I/mr^2) with I = 3/2mr^2 and m= mass of pulley
Are you sure that your expression for rotational kinetic energy is correct? What is the general expression for rotational kinetic energy? You also may want to check your moment of inertia for a disk.
 
Appreciate the help. I figured something was wrong w/ that side of the equation.

So the general rotational equation is (I think) K = 1/2Iw^2. I assume I should replace w with v/r? Giving me K = 1/2Iv^2/r^2.

The book gives me two moments of inertia for a disk. One is 1/2MR^2 but there is an arrow at the middle; the other (which I used) is 3/2MR^2 which has the arrow at the end of the disk. I figured I use the latter since the string is probably on the side of the pulley?
 
kaka2007 said:
The book gives me two moments of inertia for a disk. One is 1/2MR^2 but there is an arrow at the middle; the other (which I used) is 3/2MR^2 which has the arrow at the end of the disk. I figured I use the latter since the string is probably on the side of the pulley?
No. The "arrow" represents the axis of rotation. (Moment of inertia varies with choice of axis.) In your problem, the axis of rotation is in the center of the pulley.
 

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