Speed of falling object via derivation/integration

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The discussion focuses on deriving the speed of a falling object, specifically a stone dropped from a height h, resulting in the equation v=sqrt(2gh). Participants express initial confusion about starting the derivation but acknowledge understanding of integration and kinematics. The conversation highlights that while deriving from first principles is possible, using kinematic equations or energy conservation is simpler. One user clarifies that integrating acceleration (a=mg) leads to the velocity equation v=gt. Ultimately, the user resolves their confusion and confirms they have understood the solution.
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Homework Statement



A stone is dropped from rest at an initial height h above the surface of the earth. Show that the speed with which it strikes the ground is v=sqrt(2gh)

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I'm just not sure where to get started. I fully understand how to integrate/derive. I am having trouble understanding what equations to start with.

EDIT: I assume that I have to derive/integrate somewhere. I understand how to get sqrt(2gh) just by re-arranging the equation vf2 = vi2+2gh
 
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Assuming no air resistance, then the resultant force acting on the mass m is ma=mg.

You can write 'a' as 'dv/dt' and integrate.

Though using kinematics/energy is much simpler.
 
rock.freak667 said:
Assuming no air resistance, then the resultant force acting on the mass m is ma=mg.

You can write 'a' as 'dv/dt' and integrate.

Though using kinematics/energy is much simpler.

that would give me dv/dt = g. if i integrate with respect to t, id get v=gt

edit: nevermind, i got it,thanks
 
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