Speed of particle Galilean relativity

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The problem involves two particles created in a high-energy particle accelerator, moving in opposite directions with given speeds. The task is to determine the speed of the second particle as measured in the laboratory and to compare this result with predictions from Galilean relativity.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Galilean relativity and special relativity to find the speed of the second particle. There are attempts to calculate the speed using both frameworks, with some questioning the correctness of initial calculations and assumptions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring both Galilean and special relativity approaches. There is acknowledgment of potential typos in calculations, and some participants are confirming the validity of the special relativity formula used.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the correct application of formulas and the values used in calculations, as well as the need to clarify the differences between Galilean and special relativity in this context.

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Homework Statement


Two particles are created in a high-energy particle accelerator and move off in opposite directions. The speed of one particle, as measured in the laboratory, is 0.650 c, and the speed of each particle relative to the other is 0.950 c, where c = 3 × 108 m/s is the speed of light in vacuum.

What is the speed of the second particle, as measured in the laboratory? Compare your result to what you would obtain from Galilean relativity.

Homework Equations



u' = u - v

The Attempt at a Solution


So galilean relativity says that the laws of motion are the same in all intertial frames.

So the speed of the second particle is just: 0.950 c - 0.650 c = 0.300 c

correct?
 
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j3dwards said:
So the speed of the second particle is just: 0.950 c - 0.350 c = 0.600 c
Earlier you wrote:
j3dwards said:
The speed of one particle, as measured in the laboratory, is 0.650 c
So there's a typo somewhere.

But that's the right idea for Galilean relativity. What about special relativity?
 
Doc Al said:
Earlier you wrote:
So there's a typo somewhere.

But that's the right idea for Galilean relativity. What about special relativity?

Oh yes sorry, so the speed of the second particle is 0.300c.

And for special relativity: u' = u - v/(1-uv/c2) = (0.950c - 0.650c)/(1-(0.95c x 0.650c)/(c2) = 2.35 x 108 = 0.784c

Is this right?
 
j3dwards said:
And for special relativity: u' = u - v/(1-uv/c2) = (0.950c - 0.650c)/(1-(0.95c x 0.650c)/(c2) = 2.35 x 108 = 0.784c

Is this right?
Looks good to me!
 

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