Lorentz Transformation Question

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The problem involves two particles created in a high-energy accelerator moving in opposite directions, with one particle's speed given in the laboratory frame and the relative speed between the two particles also provided. The task is to determine the speed of the second particle as measured in the laboratory using the Lorentz Velocity Transformation Equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the Lorentz Velocity Transformation Equation to find the speed of the second particle but questions the sign convention used in the solution provided. Other participants suggest that the discrepancy may be due to a typo or differing conventions in assigning directionality to the velocities.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the reasoning behind the sign choices in the formula. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the signs, but no consensus has been reached on the correct application of the formula.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of clarity regarding the assignment of positive and negative directions in the problem, which may affect the interpretation of the velocities involved. The problem does not specify which direction is considered positive.

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Homework Statement


2 particles are created in a high-energy accelerator and move off in opposite directions. The speed of one particle, as measured in the laboratory is 0.650c, and the speed of each particle relative to the other is 0.950c. What is the speed of the second particle, as measured in the laboratory.


Homework Equations


Lorentz Velocity Transformation Equation.

Vx= Vx'+u/(1+(uVx'/C2))


The Attempt at a Solution


I let S be the frame of reference of the laboratory and S, be the frame of reference of the first particle.

From the question, u=+0.650c and the velocity of the 2nd particle in the S' frame is
Vx'= -0.950c since it is approaching the first particle.

Hence when i plug in the values into the formula, I should get

Vx=[(-0.950+0.650)]c/(1+(-0.950x0.650)) = -0.784c

the speed is hence 0.784c.

However the solution given puts a negative sign to the 0.650 in the denominator. i.e.
Vx=[(-0.950+0.650)]c/(1+(0.950x-0.650))

Why did they negate the 0.650 and not the 0.950? Where have i gone wrong in my reasoning? Thanks!
 
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Probably just a typo. Your solution is fine.
 
You can also use (0.950-0.650)c/1-0.650*0.950) = 0.784c. Since the question doesn't label one direction as positive, and only asks for speed (the magnitude of velocity), it doesn't really matter. I don't know why they chose to deploy the minus signs as they did; maybe it's a trivial difference in convention: which formula they started off with, and how they assigned the variables in this particular problem to those of the general formula etc., or maybe just a typo as vela suggests. I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it ;-)
 
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okay noted. thanks a lot! :)
 

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