Sph Harmonics Homework: Find Potential for r>a, Contribution Using Superposition

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The problem involves determining the potential outside a sphere of radius a, where the potential is defined to be zero except in a specific angular region. The task is to express this potential in terms of spherical harmonics for regions where r > a, while also exploring contributions based on the values of m and the concept of superposition.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of symmetry in relation to the spherical harmonics and question which m values yield non-zero contributions. There is also confusion regarding the superposition aspect of the problem and how it relates to the potential defined in the specified angular region.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the symmetry of the problem and its relation to the spherical harmonics, while others are questioning the assumptions made about the potential's dependence on φ. The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored without a clear consensus.

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There are constraints regarding the angular bounds of integration and the specific conditions under which the potential is defined. Participants are navigating these constraints while attempting to clarify their understanding of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


A sphere of radius a has V = 0 everywhere except between 0 < θ < π/2 and 0 < φ < π. Write an expression in spherical harmonics for the potential for r > a. For which values of m are there contributions? Determine the contributions through l= 2. How could you determine the leading contribution using just superposition?

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Again I will be uploading images. I am only looking for answer in terms of a general formula. Not a fully drawn out calculation.
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I will be uploading a solution. Again the solution they are looking for is very general. What I am confused about is that this problem implies that for certain values of m there are no contributions but that does not seem to be the case with these bounds of integration. Also I do not understand the superposition part of this question.
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Look at the symmetry of the problem and compare it with the symmetry of the spherical harmonics.
 
bobob said:
Look at the symmetry of the problem and compare it with the symmetry of the spherical harmonics.
I’m integrating all the phi terms they don’t seem to go to 0.
 
Faizan Samad said:
I’m integrating all the phi terms they don’t seem to go to 0.

That's why you don't just throw math a problem that involves physics. It appears your potential independent of \phi, correct? If so,which m values should you not get zero answers for? Second, you were asked how you could guess a term or terms by superposition. Look at the symmetry of the Y_lm you can have after figuring out which ones those are (that you got by symmetry). You have the potential on a sphere which is V on the upper hemisphere and 0 on the lower hemisphere. It might help to shift the potential by -V/2 so that the symmetry is more obvious. Then you have a constant V/2 on the entire sphere and term and and a tem with +V/2 on the top hemisphere and -V/2 on the bottom hemisphere. When you superpose them you get V on the top half and zero on the bottom half. First thing you should always do in any problem is shift the origin or shift something to make as much symmetry explicit as possible. Then when you are done, you can shift back.
 
bobob said:
It appears your potential independent of \phi, correct?
That's not correct. The potential is non-zero for only ##0 < \phi < \pi##.
 
vela said:
That's not correct. The potential is non-zero for only ##0 < \phi < \pi##.
My mistake. Sorry about misreading the phi boundary condition. In that case, you should still look for symmetry, but adding -V/2 to everything will not be useful.
 
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