Sphere Radius = 1 centered at origin

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The discussion revolves around the equations and representations of a sphere of radius r in different coordinate systems, including rectangular and spherical coordinates. Participants explore parametric equations and vector representations, as well as the calculation of magnetic fields in a specified reference frame.

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  • One participant seeks to derive equations for a sphere of radius r in rectangular coordinates and asks for the functions fx, fy, and fz.
  • Another participant provides parametric equations for a point on a sphere using spherical coordinates, suggesting that the vector equation can be expressed in terms of r, θ, and φ.
  • A different participant presents an equation involving magnetic fields and asks how to determine the magnitude of B in the x-y-z reference frame.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the initial equations presented, questioning their clarity and suggesting possible interpretations of the notation used.
  • The same participant attempts to clarify the expression for B, providing a step-by-step transformation of the equation to a different form, but does not reach a consensus on the original meaning.

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Participants exhibit varying levels of understanding and clarity regarding the equations and concepts discussed. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the initial expressions or the calculation of the magnetic field.

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Some assumptions regarding the notation and definitions used in the equations remain unresolved, leading to confusion among participants. The discussion includes multiple interpretations and approaches to the same problem without a clear resolution.

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r^2 = x^2 + y^2 + z^2

I would like to know what would be the equations be for:

A sphere of radius = r in Rectangular Coordinates
fx(x,y,x)*x +fy(x,y,x)*y + fz(x,y,x)*z
fx(x,y,x)=?
fy(x,y,x)=?
fz(x,y,x)=?


A sphere of radius = r in Rectangular Coordinates with spherical members
fx(r,Ɵ,Ø)*x + fy(r,Ɵ,Ø)*y + fz(r,Ɵ,Ø)*z
fx(r,Ɵ,Ø)=?
fy(r,Ɵ,Ø)=?
fz(r,Ɵ,Ø)=?

A sphere of radius = r in Spherical Coordinates
fr(r,Ɵ,Ø)*r + fƟ(r,Ɵ,Ø)*Ɵ + fØ(r,Ɵ,Ø)*Ø
fr(r,Ɵ,Ø)=?
fƟ(r,Ɵ,Ø)=?
fØ(r,Ɵ,Ø)=?
 
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The parametric equations for a point on a sphere of radius r are just the spherical coordinates with variable \rho replaced by the constant r:
x= r cos(\theta) sin(\phi)
y= r sin(\theta) sin(\phi)
z= r cos(\phi)

The vector equation would be
(r cos(\theta) sin(\phi)\vec{i}+ r sin(\theta) sin(\phi)\vec{j}+ r cos(\phi)\vec{k}
 
If you have an equation:

Br*r + BƟ*Ɵ

Br=μ0/(4*pi)*2*m*cosƟ/r^3
BƟ = μ0/(4*pi)*2*m*cosƟ/r^3

How do you get the magnitude of B in x-y-z reference frame?
 
It's impossible to understant what you have written. First you don't have an equation. Is that first expression supposed to be equal to the position vector of a point?

Second what does " / /" mean? Are those two divisions? If so isn't the first one just (\mu_0 r^3)(8m\pi cos(\theta))? Or do you mean the product of two fractions: (\mu_0/(4\pi))(2m cos(\theta))/r^3)?

Assuming it is the latter,
\frac{\mu_0}{4\pi}\frac{2 m cos(\theta)}{r^3}= \frac{\mu_0}{2\pi}\frac{m rcos(\theta)}{r^4}
= \frac{\mu_0}{2\pi}\frac{m r cos(\theta)}{(r^2)^2}= \frac{\mu_0}{2\pi}\frac{m x}{(x^2+ y^2)^2}
 

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