Spherical coordinates and partial derivatives

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This discussion focuses on calculating partial derivatives in spherical coordinates, specifically finding the expressions for (\frac{\partial}{{\partial}x}, \frac{\partial}{{\partial}y}, \frac{\partial}{{\partial}z}). The user outlines a method using the chain rule, expressing the derivatives in terms of spherical coordinates (r, θ, φ) and their relationships to Cartesian coordinates (x, y, z). A key point raised is the potential equivalence of \frac{{\partial}r}{{\partial}x} and \frac{1}{\frac{{\partial}x}{{\partial}r}}, along with the implications for \frac{{\partial}{\phi}}{{\partial}z} when \frac{{\partial}z}{{\partial}{\phi}}=0.

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  • Understanding of spherical coordinates (r, θ, φ)
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  • Basic concepts of vector calculus and gradients
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Hello! My problem is that I want to find [tex](\frac{\partial}{{\partial}x}, \frac{\partial}{{\partial}y}, \frac{\partial}{{\partial}z})[/tex] in spherical coordinates. The way I am thinking to do this is:

[tex]\frac{\partial}{{\partial}x}{\psi}(r(x,y,z),{\theta}(x,y,z),{\phi}(x,y,z))=\frac{{\partial}{\psi}}{{\partial}r}\frac{{\partial}r}{{\partial}x}+\frac{{\partial}{\psi}}{{\partial}{\theta}}\frac{{\partial}{\theta}}{{\partial}x}+\frac{{\partial}{\psi}}{{\partial}{\phi}}\frac{{\partial}{\phi}}{{\partial}x}=\frac{1}{\frac{{\partial}x}{{\partial}r}}\frac{{\partial}{\psi}}{{\partial}r}+\frac{1}{\frac{{\partial}x}{{\partial}{\theta}}}\frac{{\partial}{\psi}}{{\partial}{\theta}}+\frac{1}{\frac{{\partial}x}{{\partial}{\phi}}}\frac{{\partial}{\psi}}{{\partial}{\phi}}[/tex],

where [tex]\psi[/tex] is an arbitrary function. And so:

[tex]\frac{\partial}{{\partial}x}=\frac{1}{\frac{{\partial}x}{{\partial}r}}\frac{{\partial}}{{\partial}r}+\frac{1}{\frac{{\partial}x}{{\partial}{\theta}}}\frac{{\partial}}{{\partial}{\theta}}+\frac{1}{\frac{{\partial}x}{{\partial}{\phi}}}\frac{{\partial}}{{\partial}{\phi}}[/tex]

The problem is that I think I've seen somewhere that [tex]\frac{{\partial}r}{{\partial}x}=\frac{1}{\frac{{\partial}x}{{\partial}r}}[/tex] BUT I am really far from being sure that this is true.

And if this is true so far then what happens with [tex]\frac{{\partial}{\phi}}{{\partial}z}[/tex] when [tex]\frac{{\partial}z}{{\partial}{\phi}}=0[/tex]
 
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In general, let u1=r, u2=θ, u3=φ, then
[tex]\frac{\partial \bold{r}}{\partial u_p}\cdot\triangledown u_q=\delta_{pq}[/tex]
 

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