Spherical Harmonics: A Primer on Barton's Relations & Addition Theorem

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical properties of spherical harmonics, specifically focusing on Barton's relations and the addition theorem in the context of spherical polar coordinates. Participants explore the derivation and implications of these relations, including the closure property of spherical harmonics and their application in various mathematical contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant references Barton's proof involving the delta function in spherical coordinates and the relation between spherical harmonics and the addition theorem.
  • Another participant provides a derivation of the cosine relation between two vectors in spherical coordinates, suggesting it is straightforward.
  • Some participants discuss the invariance of the left-hand side of the addition theorem under rotations and propose a method to simplify the proof by rotating vectors.
  • There is a debate about the value of the associated Legendre polynomial at specific points, with one participant asserting it is zero for non-zero m, while another challenges this claim.
  • Participants explore the implications of choosing different vectors and how this affects the resulting expressions in the addition theorem.
  • One participant notes that the spherical harmonics span a representation of the rotation group, suggesting this could be used to further understand the addition theorem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the value of the associated Legendre polynomial and its implications for the addition theorem. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the conditions under which certain values hold true and how they relate to the addition theorem.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for careful consideration of the conditions under which the relations are derived, particularly regarding the values of the angles and the implications of vector choices in spherical coordinates.

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Hello.
I was recently reading Barton's book.
I reached the part where he proved that in spherical polar coordinates
##δ(\vec r - \vec r')=1/r^2δ(r-r')δ(cosθ-cosθ')δ(φ-φ')##
##=1/r^2δ(r-r')δ(\Omega -\Omega')##
Then he said that the most fruitful presentation of ##δ(\Omega-\Omega')## stems from the closure property of the spherical harmonics ##Y_{lm}(\Omega)## which constitute a complete orthonormal set over the surface of the unit sphere.
Then he said that the spherical harmonics satisfies the remarkable addition theorem:
##\sum_{m=-l}^{m=l}Y_{lm}^*(\Omega')Y_{lm}(\Omega)=(2l+1/4π) P_l(\vec r \cdot \vec r')##

My problem is that I didn't get from where he obtained this relation.
Besides he said that the angle##\chi## between ##\vec r## and ##\vec r'## is

##cos\chi=\vec r \cdot \vec r'={cosθcosθ'+sinθsinθ'cos(Φ-Φ')}##
Where the vector where ##\vec r## and ##\vec r'## are two vectors in spherical coordinates.

If somebody can help me obtaining this relation too.

Thanks.
 
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amjad-sh said:
##cos\chi=\vec r \cdot \vec r'={cosθcosθ'+sinθsinθ'cos(Φ-Φ')}##
At least this relation is easy to derive from the representation of the unit vector r in terms of the anlges ##\theta## and ##\phi##,
##r=(\cos \phi \sin \theta, \sin \phi \sin \theta, \cos \theta)^T## and the addition theorems for the cosine and sine of ##\phi##.
 
amjad-sh said:
∑m=lm=−lY∗lm(Ω′)Ylm(Ω)=(2l+1/4π)Pl(⃗r⋅⃗r′)∑m=−lm=lYlm∗(Ω′)Ylm(Ω)=(2l+1/4π)Pl(r→⋅r→′)\sum_{m=-l}^{m=l}Y_{lm}^*(\Omega')Y_{lm}(\Omega)=(2l+1/4π) P_l(\vec r \cdot \vec r')
I think this is easierst to prove noting that the lhs is invariant under rotations. Hence we may rotate ## r \to (0,0,1)^T## and ##r' \to (\sin(\theta), 0, \cos(\theta))^T##, with ##r\cdot r' =\cos(\theta)##. Can you fill in the remaining steps?
 
DrDu said:
Can you fill in the remaining steps?
Not exactly.
I still didn't get the figure yet.
##Y_{lm}(θ,φ)=(-1)^m\sqrt{(2l+1/4π)(l-m)!/(l+m)!}P_l^m(cosθ)e^{(imφ)}## is the joint eigen function of ##\hat L^2 and \hat L_z##
should I use this to obtain it?
 
amjad-sh said:
Not exactly.
I still didn't get the figure yet.
##Y_{lm}(θ,φ)=(-1)^m\sqrt{(2l+1/4π)(l-m)!/(l+m)!}P_l^m(cosθ)e^{(imφ)}## is the joint eigen function of ##\hat L^2 and \hat L_z##
should I use this to obtain it?
Yes. What is the value of ##P_l^m(1)##?
 
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DrDu said:
Yes. What is the value of Pml(1)Plm(1)P_l^m(1)?
its value is zero since ##P_l^m(x)=(1-x^2)^{|m|/2}\frac {d^{|m|}}{dx^{|m|}}P_l(x)##
where ##p_l(x)=1/(2^l l! )\frac {d^l}{dx^l}(x^2-1)^l##
 
amjad-sh said:
its value is zero since ##P_l^m(x)=(1-x^2)^{|m|/2}\frac {d^{|m|}}{dx^{|m|}}P_l(x)##
where ##p_l(x)=1/(2^l l! )\frac {d^l}{dx^l}(x^2-1)^l##
Thats not always true.
 
DrDu said:
Thats not always true.
when it is not?
 
Start to check for the lowest values of l an m.
 
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DrDu said:
Start to check for the lowest values of l an m.
I found that they are equal to 1 only when m=0 and by this ##P_l^m(1)=1## If I substitute in ##\sum_{m=-l}^{m=l}Y_l^m(\Omega')^*Y_l^m(\Omega)## what I will get is ##(2l+1)/4π P_l^2(1)## which is equal to ##2l+1/4π##.

you said that the l's are invariant under rotation.I think because ## \hat L^2## commutes with ##\hat H##, ##[\hat H,\hat L^2]=0##
you mean choosing any ##\vec r## ,##\vec r'## suffices in proving the whole relation?
but if you chose other ##\vec r## and ##\vec r'## the relation will end up with ##P_l^2(\vec r \cdot \vec r')## and not ##P_l(\vec r \cdot \vec r')## isn't this true?
and why it is ##P_l(\vec r \cdot \vec r')## and not ##P_l(cosθ)## as the solution of the legendre differential equation is ##\Theta_{lm}(θ)=c_{lm}P_l^m(cosθ)##?
 
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amjad-sh said:
I found that they are equal to 1 only when m=0 and by this ##P_l^m(1)=1##
... and 0 if m not equal 0.

If I substitute in ##\sum_{m=-l}^{m=l}Y_l^m(\Omega')^*Y_l^m(\Omega)## what I will get is ##(2l+1)/4π P_l^2(1)## which is equal to ##2l+1/4π##.
No, be carefull! If ##\cos \theta =1##, ##\cos \theta' <1## in general.
 
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DrDu said:
No, be carefull! If cosθ=1cos⁡θ=1\cos \theta =1, cosθ′<1cos⁡θ′<1\cos \theta'

OK. So the relation will end up like this:##(2l+1)/4πP_l^0(cosθ')##.
How can I reach ##P_l(\vec r \cdot \vec r')## now?
 
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Note that the Ylm span an irreducible and unitary representation of the rotation group, i.e. ## Y_l^m(R^{-1} r)=\sum_m U_{m m'} Y_l^m'(r)##, where R is a 3x3 rotation matrix and U a (2l+1)x(2l+1) unitary matrix. You can use this to show that ##\sum_{m=-l}^{l} Y^{m*}_l(r') Y^m_l(r)=\sum_{m=-l}^{l} Y^{m*}_l(e') Y^m_l(e_z)##, where ##e_z= (0,0,1)^T## and ##e'=(\sin(\arccos(r\cdot r')), 0, r\cdot r')^T##
 

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