Spherical Mirror and Object Distance

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a spherical mirror with a radius of curvature of 0.24 m, where an object is placed in front of the mirror and magnified to twice its size. Participants are exploring whether the mirror is concave or convex and attempting to determine the object's distance from the mirror.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the mirror based on the magnification of the image, with some asserting that a concave mirror is indicated due to the image being larger. There is also a focus on the mathematical relationships involving object distance, image distance, and focal length, with attempts to apply the mirror equation and magnification formula.

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There is active engagement with various attempts to solve for the object's distance, with some participants questioning the correctness of their equations and calculations. Guidance has been offered regarding the signs of distances and the proper application of the mirror equation, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of sign conventions in optics and the correct application of formulas, with some expressing frustration over repeated mistakes. There is a recognition that the object distance should be positive, given the setup of the problem.

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If a spherical mirror has a radius of curvature of .24 m and and object is placed in front of it and magnified to twice its size: is the mirror concave, convex, or either? And what is the object's distance?

I determined that the mirror was concave, because the question said that the image was twice the object's size and convex mirrors decrease image size. Is this correct?

I'm having trouble finding the object's distance too. I know that M = - di/do. And M will either = 2 or -2 because the image could be real or virtual.

From the question I got that R = .24 and since F = R/2, F = .12
Then, using the equation 1/do + 1/di = 1/F, I rearranged to get
do + di = F and since F = .12,
do = .12 - di

I solved for di using M = - di/do with M = 2, so
2 = - di/do rearraged to,
di = - 2do

Plugging this to the spherical-mirror equation gave me: do = .12 - (- 2do)

Solving gives: do = - .12 m

Is this correct? Am I going about this the right way, or am I way off base? Any help is appreciated. Thank you.
 
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Skye77 said:
If a spherical mirror has a radius of curvature of .24 m and and object is placed in front of it and magnified to twice its size: is the mirror concave, convex, or either? And what is the object's distance?

I determined that the mirror was concave, because the question said that the image was twice the object's size and convex mirrors decrease image size. Is this correct?

Yes.

I'm having trouble finding the object's distance too. I know that M = - di/do. And M will either = 2 or -2 because the image could be real or virtual.

From the question I got that R = .24 and since F = R/2, F = .12
Then, using the equation 1/do + 1/di = 1/F, I rearranged to get
do + di = F

This is wrong. Try again.

Solving gives: do = - .12 m

The object is in front of the mirror, its distance should be positive. But you are quite near to the right way :cool:.


ehild
 
So then am I only off because of the negative sign? So the answer would be .12 m
 
Skye77 said:
So then am I only off because of the negative sign? So the answer would be .12 m

No, you made a mistake saying that di +do =F.

ehild
 
I got that equation from my book and I've tried rearranging it several times and I still get the same answer. What am I missing?

1/do + 1/di = 1/F

M= - di/do and since M = -2 I get di = 2do

Then I plug that into the equation and still get .12

:(
 
di=M*do

1/do+1/(Mdo) =1/F

factor out do:

(1/do)*(1+1/M)=1/F

do=F*(1+1/M)

M is either 2 or -2., F=0.12 m.

Plug in.

ehild
 
Thanks for all the help. I just realized when I was doing my math I was making the same bone-head mistake over and over again.

Must get more sleep to avoid stupid mistakes!
 

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