Spherical thermodynamical chamber

R*TIn summary, the conversation discusses a spherical chamber with a cold surface that causes gas particles to condense on it. The problem is to determine the time it takes for the gas to reach a different pressure, p2, using the ideal gas law and a differential equation. The solution involves setting up a differential equation for pressure as a function of time and solving for the constant using the ideal gas equation.
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Homework Statement


In a spherical chamber with volume V , which contains a gas with pressure p1, there is a surface that has a much more low temperature than the other surface temperature of the sphere surface( which is kept constant). Because of that the particles that hit the coresponding surface S will condensate on it. We know: molar mass, universal gas constant, and neglate the liquid formation from condensation.

After how much time will the gas have another pressure, let's call it p2?

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution



The number of molecules that hit the cold surface in a time interval dt is:

dN = n * dV , where dV= v * dt * S, v= root mean square velocity ; n= molcule volumetric concentration ( m^-3)

For that dt we can keep n constant so : n=N/V => dN/N= v* dt* S / V, and here is my problem...

I can't integrate this because I would say that the intitial number of molecules is 0. Any ideas?

Thank you[/B]
 
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You nearly have it. But why do you think that the number of molecules at t=0 is zero?

Really what you want to do is write a differential equation for the pressure as a function of time, P(t) . Use the ideal gas law, and the pressure at t=0, P(0). It should look something like so.

## \frac{dP(t)}{dt} = - \text{const} P(t)##

And you should be able to solve that pretty easily. So can you work out what "const" should be here?
 
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I'm stuck at something...

from ideal gas equation:

dp/dt * V = dN/dt * m/M * R*T ; m-molecule mass; M=molar mass

What is dN/dt? dN/dt = -N * v * S / V ?
 
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yes, I think that's the answer:

so: N = p*V/R*T => dN/dt = - p * v * S/ R * T => const = v*S*m*v / M*V
 

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