Spinning object losing mass implies torque?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a spinning object that is losing mass, specifically focusing on the implications for angular velocity and angular momentum. The subject area includes concepts from rotational dynamics and angular momentum conservation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore whether the angular velocity of the spinning object changes as it loses mass, questioning the relationship between angular momentum, moment of inertia, and torque. Some consider the system as a whole, while others analyze the effects on individual components.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants suggest that the angular momentum of the entire system remains constant, while others question the implications of mass loss on angular velocity. There is a recognition of counterintuitive aspects regarding the behavior of the system.

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Assumptions about external forces and the nature of mass loss are under discussion, with references to specific scenarios like the analogy of a spinning ice skater releasing weights. The lack of external forces is noted as a critical factor in the analysis.

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Does a spinning uniform object which is losing mass experience a change in angular velocity?

It seems to me the angular momentum changes due to a change in the moment of inertia of the object, which depends on mass. The angular momentum of the object would decrease, if we just look at the object alone (L=Iw). So there is some torque since change in L implies a torque. But then that also means an angular acceleration so that w is not constant.

The answer given is that angular velocity for the object is constant. Why?
 
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Assuming no external forces, the angular (and linear) momentum of the closed system consisting of the spinning object and any "lost" mass remains constant, so it depends on how the object is losing mass.
 
treat it as two bodies, a big mass and a little mass …

the question is, does the angular velocity of the big mass change? :wink:

(and the only force on the big mass is the "kick" from the little mass, if any)
 
There is no force on the big mass during release, the released weight follows a tangent to the path of the extremity of the object. This should imply no torque and no change in angular velocity. Like if a spinning ice skater had weights attached to her outstretched arms and then the weights were released by some mechanism. I guess its just counter intuitive to me that the skater would not change angular speed in that case.
 

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