Spring and Energy: Rocket clamped to an anchored spring

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving a weather rocket with a mass of 11.6 kg generating a thrust of 200 N, clamped to a vertical spring with a spring constant of 580 N/m. The spring compression before ignition is calculated to be 0.1962 m. For the rocket's speed when the spring stretches 32.0 cm, the conservation of energy approach was incorrectly applied, as the correct method involves analyzing forces and accelerations rather than energy conservation. The discussion highlights the importance of understanding the dynamics of spring systems in conjunction with thrust forces.

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Homework Statement


A 11.6 kg weather rocket generates a thrust of 200 N . The rocket, pointing upward, is clamped to the top of a vertical spring. The bottom of the spring, whose spring constant is 580 N/m , is anchored to the ground.

Initially, before the engine is ignited, the rocket sits at rest on top of the spring. How much is the spring compressed?

After the engine is ignited, what is the rocket's speed when the spring has stretched 32.0 cm ?

For comparison, what would be the rocket's speed after traveling this distance if it weren't attached to the spring?

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The Attempt at a Solution

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I found 0.1962m for part A
but part B and C, I don't think I am on the right track. I don't know how to use LaTex, so hopefully you understand

for question b:
I used conservation of energy of the spring systems, saying 1.2mv^2=1/2 k* delta(x)^2
delta x I used 0.1962m of part A to solve for v by all given variables

for part c:
my answer was funky. I found net acceleration on y direction and then used integral to solve for v, but it was not working.
 
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Max said:
conservation of energy of the spring systems, saying 1.2mv^2=1/2 k* delta(x)^2
Conservationof energy says initial total energy equals final total energy. Does that match your equation?

(You will not be able to use conservation of energy here. Consider forces and accelerations.)
 

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