Spring compressed, find velocity.

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The problem involves a block of mass 0.3 kg on a frictionless surface, connected to a spring with a spring constant of 24 N/m. The block is set into motion after being compressed by 3.5 cm. The questions focus on determining the maximum velocity of the block and the spring compression when the block reaches a velocity of 0.19 m/s.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the force equation F = -kx and calculates the force at the initial compression. There is uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the compression distance. Some participants suggest using conservation of energy principles, while others discuss the energy stored in the spring and its relation to kinetic energy. Questions arise about the correct application of energy equations and the constants involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of energy conservation, but there is still confusion about the application of formulas and constants. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being examined.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of energy conservation in the context of spring mechanics, with some expressing uncertainty about the initial conditions and the correct setup of equations.

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Homework Statement


A block of mass 0.3 kg and spring constant 24 N/m is on a frictionless surface. If the block is set into motion when compressed 3.5 cm, what is the maximum velocity of the block? How much is the spring compressed when the block has a velocity of 0.19 m/s?


Homework Equations


F = -kx


The Attempt at a Solution


m = 0.3 kg
k = 24 N/m
3.5cm = 0.035m is what? amplitude or distance I'm not sure.

F = 24*0.035 = 0.84 N?

I'm stuck, any help would be greatly appreciated :)
 
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hi demonslayer42! :smile:

use conservation of energy (∆PE + ∆KE = constant) :wink:
 
In F = -kx, x is the compression or stretch of the spring, so at first the force on the mass is F = k*0.035 = 0.84 N as you found. You could get the initial acceleration with F = ma. However, as the mass moves and the spring is less compressed, the force and acceleration decrease. Calculus integration would be necessary to deal with the diminishing acceleration.

This problem is easier to deal with using energy formulas.
The energy stored in a spring is Es = ½kx². You can answer the first question by starting with
Initial Es = kinetic energy at maximum speed
 
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are saying.
Es = ½kx²
(1/2)(24)(0.035)^2 = 0.0147 ? So if this is Es what am I suppose to do with this?
 
(1/2)mv^2 + (1/2)kx^2 = k

(1/2)(0.3)(v^2) + 0.0147 = 24

(1/2)(0.3)(v^2) = 23.9853

v^2 = 23.9853/0.15
=12.645 ?
That doesn't look right.
 
hi demonslayer42! :smile:

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demonslayer42 said:
(1/2)mv^2 + (1/2)kx^2 = k

no, wrong constant

your equation is KE + PE = constant,

but that shouldn't be the spring constant, it should be the constant that fulfils the initial conditions …

so set the constant at the value of KE + PE at time zero :smile:
 

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