Spring. (Potential energy and work done)

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The discussion revolves around concepts of potential energy and work done in the context of springs and gravitational forces. Participants are examining the relationships between gravitational potential energy, elastic potential energy, and the work done by forces acting on an object.

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  • The original poster raises questions about the treatment of weight in calculations, the sign of gravitational potential energy changes, and the relationship between different forms of energy in the context of a spring system.

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Participants are actively engaging with the questions posed, providing clarifications and affirmations regarding the definitions and relationships of energy types. There is a recognition of the negative change in gravitational potential energy, and some participants are exploring the implications of energy changes in different scenarios.

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Please see attached images.

Those pencil-written answers are directly copied from marking scheme (after using considerable amount of time calculating and still getting the wrong answer)

1. For question 1, why is the weight taken as 3.8N regardless of the additional force F?

2. In question 1, gravitational potential energy is supposed to be lost because the height of the object from the ground has decreased. Then why is the answer not negative?

3. For question 3, why is it just Es - Ep? Combining with my second question, is it because the F caused a decrease in gravitational potential energy, and caused an increase in elastic potential energy at the same time?
 

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Strictly speaking, Δh is defined as [itex]h_f - h_i[/itex] and hence in this case it is negative thus making ΔE negative.
Net work done by the force is the net change in its mechanical energy in this case and hence it is [itex]ΔE_s + ΔE_p[/itex] .
 
1. "Weight" is the force of gravity acting on the mass; i.e., the force which the Earth pulls down on the mass.

2. You're right, the change in gravitational PE is negative.

3. That's correct.
 
So in the third diagram, the spring actually has MORE total energy compared to the previous two diagrams?
 
coconut62 said:
So in the third diagram, the spring actually has MORE total energy compared to the previous two diagrams?

Right
 
Yes, the potential energy stored in the spring is greatest in the third diagram. For a spring, the more it's stretched the more energy it stores.
 

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