Energy Considerations for a Block on a Spring and Incline

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A 200-g block compressed against a spring on a 60-degree incline is analyzed using energy considerations to determine how far it moves up the ramp. In the absence of friction, the initial potential energy of the block at its highest point equals the kinetic energy stored in the spring when compressed. The equations used include the potential energy (PE) of the block and the kinetic energy (KE) of the spring, with the spring's energy calculated as E = 1/2*k*x^2. The discussion also highlights confusion regarding the assumption of the block's initial kinetic energy being zero, as the problem does not specify an initial velocity. The final goal is to find the distance the block travels along the ramp before stopping.
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Homework Statement



A 200-g block is pressed against a spring of force constant 1.40 kN/m until the block compresses the spring 10.0 cm. The spring rests at the bottom of the ramp inclined at 60.0deg to the horizontal.

Using energy considerations, determine how far up the incline the block moves before it stops (a) if there is no friction between the block and the ramp and (b) if the coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.400.

Homework Equations



Delta KE = Delta PE

The Attempt at a Solution



Okay, since the system is conservered with no fricition, I can assume that
initial energy = final energy, and we can rewrite it as
PE initial (of the block at the highest point) = KE final (of the spring as it gets compressed for 0.01 meter)

PE initial = KE final
X is the length the block travels from its original position
(mg*sin60 * X) = 1/2 * k * (0.01m^2)

And then I was wondering why do we assume that the initial KE of the block is zero? The problem did not state that there was no initial velocity for the block.
 
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Energy store in the spring is
E = 1/2*k*x^2.
When the block detaches from the spring, stored energy in the spring in converted into PE and KE. The PE is m*g*x*sinθ, where x is the compression of the spring.
Now you get the initial velocity. final velocity is zero. Find the distance traveled by the block along the ramp.
 
hi, thanks. i was so dump did not consider its reverse condition.
thanks!
 
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