Springs are considered a non-conservative force why is the

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Springs are classified as non-conservative forces; however, mechanical energy is conserved during the compression of a spring when a moving object, such as a bullet, compresses it. The discussion clarifies that while the spring force is conservative, the initial collision between the bullet and the wood is an inelastic collision, where kinetic energy is not conserved, but momentum is. The potential energy stored in the spring can be equated to the kinetic energy of the system post-collision, allowing for energy conservation principles to apply in this context.

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Quick conceptual questions:

Is springs are considered a non-conservative force why is the mechanical energy conserved when a moving object compresses the spring?

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This isn't a homework question or anything but I working on a problem that involves a spring and the problem says that a mass horizontally attached to a spring is moving compressed by a bullet being shot into the mass (wood) and that the mechanical energy is conserved during the compression of the spring. Confused.
 
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mrshappy0 said:
Is springs are considered a non-conservative force why is the mechanical energy conserved when a moving object compresses the spring?
Who said that the spring force is non-conservative?
 


Hmm... Wow.. People troll to much. hah.. So it is conservative.
 


Sure, a spring force is conservative. That's why you can have a spring potential energy function.

But be careful with that 'bullet getting shot into the wood' problem. While the spring compression is conservative, the initial collision of bullet and wood does not conserve kinetic energy: it's an inelastic collision.
 


Right. Potential energy is conserved in inelastic collisions. This allows the use of the potential energy = kinetic energy. THanks Doc!
 


mrshappy0 said:
Potential energy is conserved in inelastic collisions. This allows the use of the potential energy = kinetic energy.
Not exactly! What's conserved in an inelastic collision (and all collisions, actually) is momentum.
 
Oops I meant momentum. Slipped up on my words. To many new concepts flopping around in my word recall section in my brain.
 

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