Square integrable functions - Hilbert space and light on Dirac Notation

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The discussion revolves around the concept of square integrable functions within the context of Hilbert spaces and Dirac notation, addressing theoretical aspects, mathematical definitions, and foundational texts in quantum mechanics and functional analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the completeness of square integrable functions and seeks proof regarding Cauchy sequences and convergence, noting that Zettilis skips this in his text.
  • Another participant explains that square integrable functions are defined using a sesquilinear form and that this leads to a pre-Hilbert space, which can be shown to be a true Hilbert space under certain conditions.
  • Concerns are raised about the interpretation of the integral defining square integrability, with one participant arguing that using Riemann integrals would not yield completeness, while Lebesgue integrals are necessary for that property.
  • There is a discussion about the Dirac notation, specifically the relationship between kets and bras, with a request for clarification on their consistency.
  • One participant mentions that the sum of outer products in the form Ʃ|θn><θn| equals the identity operator, questioning whether this leads to infinity, which is countered by referencing Bessel's inequality.
  • Several texts are suggested for further reading on operators and functional analysis, including works by Axler and Kreyszig, as well as a recommendation for a text on the Lebesgue integral.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the completeness of square integrable functions and the appropriate integral to use, indicating that multiple competing views remain. There is also a lack of consensus on the implications of the Dirac notation and the nature of the sums involved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the definitions and properties of square integrable functions, particularly regarding the types of integrals used and the implications for completeness. The relationship between linear operators and matrices is also noted as an area requiring further exploration.

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Square integrable functions -- Hilbert space and light on Dirac Notation

I started off with Zettilis Quantum Mechanics ... after being half way through D.Griffiths ... Now Zettilis precisely defines what a Hibert space is and it includes the Cauchy sequence and convergence of the same ... is there any proof for the same for square integrable functions as he skips the same in the book ...
The second question he says Ʃ|θn><θn| = I where I stands for the operator ... now is this not going to infinity and please suggest some text on operators from scratch ... Thanks
 
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The Dirac Notation says
|si> is ket and its conjugate is the the bra ? Is this consistent ... please explain
 


To your first question: The space of square integrable functions, describing a scalar non-relativistic particle, is defined as the vector space of functions [itex]\psi:\mathbb{R}^3 \rightarrow \mathbb{C}[/itex] with a sesquilinear form
[tex]\langle{\psi_1}|{\psi_2} \rangle = \int_{\mathbb{R}^3} \mathrm{d}^3 \vec{x} \; \psi_1^*(\vec{x}) \psi_2(\vec{x}).[/tex]
This scalar product induces a metric on this space
[tex]\|\psi \|=\sqrt{\langle \psi|\psi \rangle}.[/tex]
To make this a pre-Hilbert space, you have to identify functions, for which
[tex]\|\psi_1-\psi_2\|=0.[/tex]
I.e., you don't distinguish between such two functions. One can show that this pre Hilbert space is in fact a true Hilbert space, i.e., it is complete in the sense of the topology induced by the norm.

To your second question: Since you have a non-degenerate scalar product you can identify any continuous linear form with a vector and vice versa. If you have a Hilbert-space vector [itex]|\psi \rangle[/itex] the corresponding linear form is written as [itex]\langle \psi|[/itex] and this already suggests how it acts on another Hilbert-space vector: [itex]|\phi \rangle \mapsto \langle \psi|\phi \rangle[/itex].

In quantum mechanics you need a bit more than that, namely also distributions since you have to deal with unbounded (mostly self-adjoint) operators (like the position and momentum operators) that have a restricted domain, but that should be explained in your book.
 


esornep said:
The Dirac Notation says
|si> is ket and its conjugate is the the bra ? Is this consistent ... please explain
See this post.

If you're wondering what linear functionals have to do with conjugates, you will need to study the relationship between linear operators and matrices. It's explained in post #3 in this thread. (Ignore the quote and the stuff below it).

esornep said:
...please suggest some text on operators from scratch
"Linear algebra done right", Sheldon Axler. (This one only deals with finite-dimensional vector spaces).
"Introductory functional analysis with applications", Erwin Kreyszig.

Most people only study finite-dimensional vector spaces and hope that there's some way of making sense of what they're doing in the context of infinite-dimensional vector spaces.
 
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esornep said:
I started off with Zettilis Quantum Mechanics ... after being half way through D.Griffiths ... Now Zettilis precisely defines what a Hibert space is and it includes the Cauchy sequence and convergence of the same ... is there any proof for the same for square integrable functions as he skips the same in the book ...

This is actually a very tricky question. The answer relies crucially on what we mean with square integrable. Sure, you can say that it are functions such that

[tex]\int |\psi|^2[/tex]

is finite. But what is that integral?? If you interpret that integral as just a Riemann integral, then the space of square integrable functions will not be complete! In order for it to be complete, we need the more advanced notion of Lebesgue integrals. With that integral, it can be shown (but it is a bit tricky to do so) that the square integrable functions are complete.

The second question he says Ʃ|θn><θn| = I where I stands for the operator ... now is this not going to infinity

The sum is not infinity by Bessel's inequality.
Fredrik suggested the wonderful texts by Axler and Kreyszig. I second these texts.
If you want to know more about the Lebesgue integral, then the text "Lebesgue integral on euclidean space" by Jones is excellent and not very hard.
 

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