Square Loop Moving Through Varying Magnetic Field

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The problem involves a square loop of side length L moving through a varying magnetic field defined by B=αxez, where α is a constant. The objective is to find the electromotive force (EMF) along the loop as it moves in the x direction with velocity v.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the magnetic flux through the loop and differentiate it to find the EMF, but encounters confusion regarding the integration process due to the varying magnetic field.
  • Some participants suggest dividing the area into infinitesimal segments to better understand the flux calculation, questioning the choice of axis for integration.
  • Others raise concerns about the correctness of the initial approach and hint at the need for a more appropriate method to account for the changing magnetic field.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods for calculating the flux and EMF. Some guidance has been provided regarding the integration of the magnetic field over the loop's area, but there is no explicit consensus on the final approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem's setup, including the need to account for the variation of the magnetic field with position and the implications of the loop's motion. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in initial calculations and the necessity for clarification on the integration limits.

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Homework Statement


A square loop of side length L is moving in the x direction with velocity v. v=vx. B points along the z axis and is defined by B=αxez where α is a constant. Find EMF along the loop

Hint: Find forces on charges in rod by virtue of motion of the rod.

Homework Equations


ε=-d\PhiB/dt

The Attempt at a Solution


I figured that \PhiB=∫B\cdotda=BL2cosθ.

Because the field is perpendicular, \PhiB=BL2
^^^I was told this was incorrect

So therefore ε=d(αxeL2)/dt, giving ε=αeL2v

This is incorrect I was told, and looking now I see that the B field varies with x. I was given a hint to "do the integral \Phi=∫B\cdotda" When I look at this, I think that da is constant at L2 so I don't see how this helps me. The hint also doesn't help me either. My work is attached below. Thank you!
 

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Hello trevor51590,

If You imagine the area divided into infinitesimal segments along the y-axis (why the Y-axis? think about it) and with each having a length L, what would be the breadth? Hence, what would be da?

Once you have figured that out, what would be the flux through one of these segments? And hence, what would be the net flux?
 
Sunil Simha said:
Hello trevor51590,

If You imagine the area divided into infinitesimal segments along the y-axis (why the Y-axis? think about it) and with each having a length L, what would be the breadth? Hence, what would be da?

Once you have figured that out, what would be the flux through one of these segments? And hence, what would be the net flux?

If you divide a square into infinitesimal segments along the y-axis (I am assuming because the field changes with x?), the breadth would be x (L), and I would assume area would be Ldy

This would leave

\phiB=αexL∫^{y}_{0}dy

Is this along the right track?

I appreciate your reply!
 
never mind I'll leave this to Sunil and will follow the thread.
 
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trevor51590 said:
If you divide a square into infinitesimal segments along the y-axis (I am assuming because the field changes with x?), the breadth would be x (L), and I would assume area would be Ldy

The length L is along the Y axis. So the breadth would be along...
So instead of dy, the breadth of the infinitesimal segment would be...
 
Fairly certain I found out the answer to be αL2v

This is the same as I found before, but now I am using the proper method. Thanks!
 
Yes the final answer that you obtain is correct. But your integral to obtain the total flux is a bit wrong.

You see,
d\phi=axLdx
and this needs to be integrated over the limits x and x+L (as you are not given the position of the loop) and the integral turns out to be \phi=aL^2(\frac{L + 2x}{2})

Though in the end you'll be just differentiating it w.r.t. time and getting the flux
 
Absolutely, I see this from working through with your hints. Thank you for your assistance
 
You are welcome
 

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