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The discussion revolves around the concept of stabilizers in group theory, specifically focusing on the stabilizer of an element within a group operation. Participants are tasked with demonstrating that the stabilizer of a given element in a group is a subgroup of that group.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • One participant suggests that the stabilizer might only consist of the identity element and questions if this set is a subgroup. Others raise the possibility of additional elements being part of the stabilizer, using the example of 2D rotations and the rotational symmetry of a square to illustrate their point.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the stabilizer concept, with some providing examples to clarify their reasoning. There is an ongoing examination of the necessary conditions for a set to be a subgroup, including the inclusion of the identity element and closure under group operations.

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Some participants note the importance of the definitions provided in the problem statement, particularly regarding the action of the group on the set and the implications for the stabilizer's composition.

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Homework Statement



An operation of a group G on a set S is a function G X S [tex]\rightarrow[/tex] S satisfying:

1. es = s [tex]\forall[/tex]s [tex]\epsilon[/tex] S
2. g(hs) = (gh)s [tex]\forall[/tex]g,h [tex]\epsilon[/tex] G, s[tex]\epsilon[/tex] S

If s [tex]\epsilon[/tex] S, show that the stabilizer of s, defined as the set:
{g [tex]\epsilon[/tex] G | gs = s}
is a subgroup of G

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Well from that definition it seems that g must be the identity element of G. Is a set consisting of just the identity not just a group? And since G is a group it includes the identity, thus the set g: {e} is a subgroup of G?
 
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i'm not sure about that...

my group theory isn't the best, but... i think the identity will surely be a part (from the definition), but also potentially other elements as well

for example consider the group of all 2D rotations, I'm not 100% sure how to put it together, but imagine the set as a square, defined only by the location of its 4 vertices, only rotations of n*(pi/2) take the square into itself... i think the the stabiliser group in this case, then represents the rotational symmetry group of the square...

so i think the key is to show something along the lines of:
- the identity must be in the stabiliser group, and if f,h are in the stabiliser group, so is fh & h^{-1}
 
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once again expanded above
 
hitmeoff said:

Homework Statement



An operation of a group G on a set S is a function G X S [tex]\rightarrow[/tex] S satisfying:

1. es = s [tex]\forall[/tex]s [tex]\epsilon[/tex] S
2. g(hs) = (gh)s [tex]\forall[/tex]g,h [tex]\epsilon[/tex] G, s[tex]\epsilon[/tex] S

If s [tex]\epsilon[/tex] S, show that the stabilizer of s, defined as the set:
{g [tex]\epsilon[/tex] G | gs = s}
is a subgroup of G

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



Well from that definition it seems that g must be the identity element of G. Is a set consisting of just the identity not just a group? And since G is a group it includes the identity, thus the set g: {e} is a subgroup of G?
No, the set of all g obviously contains e but there may be other members of G that "fix" s. Remember that s is NOT itself a member of G. You can only say that es= s because of (1) in your definition of the action of G on S.

(1) tells you that e is in this set and (2) tells you that the operation is associative. Now you need to prove that this set is closed under the operation: if gs= s and hs= s, then (gh)s= s. You also need to prove that if gs= s, then g-1s= s.
 

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