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SpaceX's Starship SN5 successfully completed a static fire test and aimed for a 150-meter hop, which ultimately faced multiple delays and cancellations due to technical issues, including a Raptor turbopump valve failure. The SN5 prototype is designed for short hops, with future iterations like SN6 and SN8 expected to incorporate more advanced features and capabilities. The testing process is unconventional, focusing on rapid iteration and learning from each test, which has led to impressive progress despite setbacks. Upcoming tests will include static fires and hops, with plans for higher altitude flights in the near future.

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  • #61
As far as I know yes, at least their main parts. They are "dumb" metal parts that just need the right shape, not much Boca Chica would do with them.

The last road closure was cancelled. New road closures for the 28th to 30th.

Musk tweeted a first Super Heavy hop is a few months away. Add almost inevitable delays and we are looking at the second half of 2021. By that time SpaceX should have more experience flying Starship - going from a hop to a high altitude flight for the booster might be relatively fast. Orbital flights are an entirely different thing, however.
 
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  • #62
Short static fire of SN9.

Airspace restrictions exist for Jan 8, 9, and 10, these are possible flight dates. The plan is a repetition of the SN8 test, just with a safe landing this time.
 
  • #63
SpaceX's Starship SN9 prototype fires up rocket engines three times in one day
Just ~1.5 hours between the tests each. It's not fast reuse yet, but it's one step towards it.

There are airspace restrictions January 14, 15 and 16 as possible flight dates.
https://tfr.faa.gov/tfr_map_ims/html/cc/scale6/tile_17_31.html


No earlier than Jan 19: https://everydayastronaut.com/starship-sn9-10-kilometer-flight/
Two Raptor engines need to be exchanged. There is a flight restriction for Jan 18 but it's almost certain that day will be used for another static fire test (or more than one).
 
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Fifth static fire test, with replaced engines.

Flight restrictions exist for 25th, 26th, 27th (Monday to Wednesday).

There are also smaller low altitude flight restrictions before, its purpose is unclear. There is a test tank "SN 7.2" near the launch site, maybe they'll test that. It cannot fly but it can launch debris high up in the air if it explodes.
 
  • #65
Boca Chica village is being evacuated at 8 am on Thursday morning for Starship SN9's test flight.
Time zone conversion: 8 am is 5 hours 15 minutes after my post.
The flight could be planned for any time during the day, but the afternoon is the most likely time.

Test announcement at the SpaceX website - the livestream will be added there, too. LabPadre and Everyday Astronaut will be streaming much earlier and keep viewers updated on tanking and similar preparations.

Edit: Moved by one day, apparently because FAA didn't approve the flight in time.

Another edit: No earlier than February 1
Meanwhile SN10 was moved to the launch site. Here are both in one picture

Apparently something about the SN8 flight violated the FAA approval. The Verge
 
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The village near the launch site will be evacuated for a possible SN10 flight attempt tomorrow (March 1).
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March 2 and 3 are backup dates.

Musk has indicated that they changed the landing procedure. They will try to ignite all three Raptor engines, and then shut down one immediately. If all three ignite that's great, if one of them has a problem then the other two will do the landing.

Edit: No earlier than March 3.
 
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It landed!

The landing seemed to be quite rough and Starship looks a bit tilted, but it landed in one piece and didn't explode immediately.

It exploded 10 minutes after landing.

First video is the flight from SpaceX, second video is the explosion coverage from EverydayAstronaut.Edit: Landing legs didn't lock properly.

 
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  • #69
I like Scott Manley's compendium:
 
  • #71
NASA Spaceflight has a longer article about future plans.
  • SN11 could fly this week. Fourth flight to ~10 km, main goal is a safe landing. The flight will end this round of test flights. There are no SN12/13/14.
  • BN1 (first booster, largely assembled) is not expected to fly, it will be used for ground tests after the SN11 flight. BN2 will fly later.
  • SN15-17 come with major upgrades relative to 8-11. They are expected to fly to higher altitudes. SN18/19 might follow or get scrapped based on the progress with the test flights.
  • SN20 on booster B3 is the expected combination for a first orbital flight. The internal target seems to be July 1, but that's an incredibly aggressive timeline and can only work if nothing goes wrong. Nevertheless, an orbital flight this year looks plausible.
  • The first orbital launch pad makes progress and construction of the integration tower (stacking Starship on top of the booster) could start in about one week.

Not in this article: SpaceX purchased two old oil rigs and converts them to launch pads. Asked how rockets would get to the platforms: Musk: They will fly there.
 
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SN11 flew but exploded shortly after starting the landing burn - presumably a planned breakup from the flight termination system but that's not clear yet. Heavy fog lead to a lot of confusion what happened.

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  • #73
Apparently SpaceX was responding to Pete Conrad's famous call on Apollo 12 for "more all-weather testing". Why would you launch a test vehicle in the fog?
 
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Looks like engine 2 had issues on ascent & didn’t reach operating chamber pressure during landing burn, but, in theory, it wasn’t needed.

Something significant happened shortly after landing burn start. Should know what it was once we can examine the bits later today.
Nothing to do with the fog, just made watching the flight harder.

BN1 won't fly but it might be tested on the ground next.

SN15 should be ready soon. It comes with significant upgrades, it has been speculated that it will make higher altitude flights where heating gets relevant. It doesn't have a full heat shield, but that's not needed for now. Getting the landing right will still be the highest priority.
 
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Nothing to do with the fog, just made watching the flight harder.
Its a test flight. The whole purpose is to watch it. Visible is valuable data. What sane person would launch into that fog?
 
  • #76
Nice pictures are not the purpose of the test. Almost all the test data comes from Starship sensors, the rest will come from inspecting debris. A camera on the ground won't contribute much anyway.

Another update:
SN15 rolls to launch pad in a few days. It has hundreds of design improvements across structures, avionics/software & engine.

Hopefully, one of those improvements covers this problem. If not, then retrofit will add a few more days.
 
  • #77
SN15 has conducted a static fire test (and a second one).
Musk: "preparing for flight later this week"

The flight is expected to mirror the previous four flights in scope, but SN15 is different in many aspects. Design issues found in the SN8-11 flights went into changes for SN15 and up, the second generation of full-scale prototypes.Personal speculation: If SN15 lands softly it will be inspected in detail. In that time I expect SN16 to be prepared for a higher altitude flight - as high as they can fly with three engines, potentially even with 6 engines (using 6 sea-level engines instead of 3 + 3 vacuum ones). SN17 could repeat that flight profile. SN18/19 won't be finished unless some serious design issue comes up. Meanwhile BN2 and the orbital launch pad will be finished and make a test hop or test flight. Add BN3 if needed. The landing mechanism will still evolve, whatever they use to land BN2 will be preliminary.
If the SN16/17 flights are successful and progress with the booster keeps up then SN20 can be put on a booster (BN3 or 4) for an orbital flight attempt. The largest risk will be a loss of all the raptor engines of the booster. They take time to produce.
 
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Soft landing. A bit of fire but that was extinguished.
They'll study this one in detail. Maybe we'll see it fly again in the future.Edit: Musk: Might try to refly SN15 soon
 
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