Static Equilibrium rope and ball problem

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The problem involves a static equilibrium scenario where a ball is supported by two ropes, with one rope pulling vertically and the other at an angle. The original poster seeks to determine the tension in one of the ropes based on the angles and the weight of the ball.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of creating a free body diagram to visualize the forces acting on the ball. There are attempts to set up equations based on the conditions of static equilibrium, with some confusion about the correct use of trigonometric functions for the components of tension.

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The discussion has progressed with participants providing guidance on breaking down the forces into components and setting up equations. There is a recognition of the need to include all forces acting on the ball, and some participants express uncertainty about their calculations and the correct approach.

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There is a mention of specific angles for the ropes, but the angle for rope B is not provided, which may affect the calculations. The original poster expresses a lack of understanding regarding the problem setup and solution process.

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[URGENT]Static Equilibrium problem

A 11kg ball is supported from the ceiling by rope A. Rope B pulls downward and to the side on the ball. If the angle of A to the vertical is 22 degree and if B makes an angle of degree to the vertical find the tension in rope A.



Homework Equations


sum Force = 0
Fy= T sin theta-mg = 0
sum of Torque = 0


The Attempt at a Solution


I have no idea on how to solve this at all!
one thing I know is that the tension in Rope A is bigger than Rope B, maybe.

Thanks.
 

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Make a free body diagram. That means you draw a circle on a piece of paper and consider all the forces acting on the ball. You have the tension pulling the ball up, the weight (mass times gravity) pulling down, and the other tension pulling the ball to the side.

Next, make an important observation: the ball is not moving.

This means that the sum of all the forces acting on the ball must equal zero. So that's an equation.

T_a + T_b + mg = 0

But actually, this is two equations because these are vectors...

x: T_{a,x} + T_{b,x} + mg_x = 0

y: T_{a,y} + T_{b,y} + mg_y = 0

You know mg and you can calculate the two tensions because you are given the angles. You need to break the tensions into the x and y components of tension (by using Sin, Cos and the given angles). Then it's easy to solve for the x and y components of the tension in rope A.

Once you have the components of tension, vector-add them to find the total tension in rope A.

Make sense?
 


Ok, let's see:
for A:
x=mg cos theta + mg
y=mg cos theta + mg

answer = square root x^2+y^2 ?

Sorry, I'm a bit lost.
 


First of all, you can't use Cos for both the x and y components of tension. Maybe that was a typo?

Also, you are ignoring the tension from rope B in your equations. You won't be able to solve this unless you include them. So rewrite your equations to consider the x components of A, B, and gravity; then the y components. Then set these equations both equal to zero (it's zero because the ball is not moving, therefore it is at equilibrium therefore the sum of the forces must be zero). Then you just solve the system of equations to find your x and y components of tension for A.

You don't use the T_a = \sqrt{T_a,x^2 + T_a,y^2} part until you have solve for x and y.
 


Ta cos 22 + Tb cos 53 + 11*9.8 = 0
Ta sin 22 + Tb sin 53 = 0
solve simultaneously and
I got the answer!
Ta=166.9
Tb=78.12

thank u so much!
 

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