Statics Questions: Help with Finding Correct Answers

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The discussion revolves around solving statics problems, specifically focusing on calculating forces and tensions in a system under static equilibrium. Participants are examining the methods and assumptions necessary to arrive at correct answers for given scenarios.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding the correct answer to a statics problem and seeks assistance.
  • Another participant suggests that the original poster may be incorrectly applying maximum forces simultaneously, indicating that only one element can reach its maximum force at a time.
  • A suggestion is made to start by assuming the maximum force in one element (the jib) is reached first and to set up static equilibrium equations to solve for the tension in the tie.
  • There is a question about the necessity of using the moment method to solve the problems, with a later reply stating that it may not be necessary if the sum of forces at a specific point is zero.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the best approach to solve the problems, with differing opinions on the application of maximum forces and the necessity of the moment method.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the conditions under which maximum forces occur and the specific methods required for solving the problems. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the sufficiency of different analytical approaches.

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The first picture is the question picture.
The second picture is my calculation for this questions.
I can't find the correct answer, everybody know why?

Thanks
 

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You seem to be applying both maximum forces at the same time. It won't be the case that for a given load the maximum force occurs in both elements simultaneously; one will reach its maximum before other (but you can't tell which yet).

So, start by assuming that the maximum in the jib element is reached first. Set up static equilibrium equations and solve for the tension in the tie. Does it exceed its maximum? If not, find the load and this will be your maximum load. If it does, then clearly the tie maxes out first so redo the calculations beginning with the tie tension set to maximum.
 
supplementary one of my problems.
Is't necessary the moment method to solve this questions?

Thanks
 
qpzm77gg said:
supplementary one of my problems.
Is't necessary the moment method to solve this questions?

Thanks

It should be sufficient to realize that for stasis to hold, the sum of the forces acting at point C should be zero.
 

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