Stationary particle decay into two particles with DIFFERENT masses

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The discussion revolves around a particle decay problem in the context of relativistic physics, specifically dealing with a stationary particle of mass 7m decaying into two fragments with different rest masses of 2m and 3m. Participants are exploring how to determine the energies and speeds of the resulting fragments in the laboratory frame.

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of energy and momentum as key principles to solve the problem. They mention setting up equations based on these conservation laws, including the use of gamma factors for relativistic speeds. Some express difficulty in solving the resulting equations and question whether there might be a simpler approach or alternative methods, such as using the energy-momentum invariant.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts on the equations involved and the challenges faced in solving them. One participant indicates that they found a solution after receiving help, suggesting that some guidance has been effective, though the overall consensus on the best approach is not explicitly stated.

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Participants are working within the constraints of relativistic physics and are grappling with the complexities introduced by different masses and velocities of the decay products. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges posed by the equations derived from conservation laws.

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I have been thinking and thinking this over, but I just can't find the solution - can anyone help?
A particle of mass 7m which is initially at rest in the laboratory frame decays into two fragments whose rest masses are 2m and 3m. Find the energies of the fragments and their speeds in the lab frame.
Help's much appreciated!
 
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Well, energy will be conserved, as will momentum. So you can calculate their total energy by using E = mc^2, and then you can use conservation of momentum as well, and then you have two equations with two unknowns. Solve.
 
That's what I've been trying to do:

conservation of energy: 7mc^2 = gamma(1)*2mc^2 + gamma(2)*3m^2

(different gamma factors as the particles move with different velocities)

conservation of momentum:

0 = gamma(1)*2m*v1 + gamma(2)*3m*v2


Then you end up with a very unpleasant equation, which I cannot solve.

Does anyone know how to do so or whether there is an easier way (which I'm sure has to exist). I've also tried to work with the energy momentum invariant and different frames of reference (which doesn't make any sense at all here, but I wanted to give it a go anyway).
 
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well, as far as i can remember the quantity \sqrt{m^2c^4+p^2c^2} is conserved.
so 7mc^2=\sqrt{9m^2c^4+4m^2c^4+p_1^2c^2+p_2^2c^2}
and the momentum is conserved too, so p_1=-p_2
and i think you can find the different velocities by \gamma_1 3mv=p_1
and \gamma_2 2mv=p_2
 
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:smile: thanks for your help!
It now works! :smile:
 

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