Statistical physics - does total energy matter, or only differences?

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In statistical physics, in a two level system, I'll give an example to show what I am talking about:

situation 1) energy 0 and energy E
situation 2) energy E/2 and energy -E/2

Are these two situations equivalent? Computing the partition function for both of them it seems they are different, but I am not sure. Because from my experience when dealing with energies in mechanics only the energy difference is important. Cheers
 
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Can you write the two expressions? Why do you think it matters?
 
pines-demon said:
Can you write the two expressions? Why do you think it matters?
The two expressions for ##Z##:

1) ##e^{-\beta \epsilon}+1##
2) ##2\cosh\left(\frac{\beta \epsilon}{2}\right)##

I think it matters because they are two different expressions!
 
laser1 said:
The two expressions for ##Z##:

1) ##e^{-\beta \epsilon}+1##
2) ##2\cosh\left(\frac{\beta \epsilon}{2}\right)##

I think it matters because they are two different expressions!
Well the partition functions cannot be exactly the same because energies are slightly shifted so it matter for energy-level dependent quantities, for example if you calculate the mean energy ##\overline{E}=-\partial \ln Z/\partial \beta## you get:
  1. ##\epsilon/(e^{\beta \epsilon}+1)##
  2. ##\epsilon \tanh(\beta \epsilon/2)/2##
As ##\beta \to 0##, Eq.1 goes to ##\epsilon/2## and Eq.2 goes to ##0## (the average value) as you would expect because of the choice of energy reference. However if you calculate a quantity that does not depend on the energy reference, for example the energy fluctuations around the mean ##\Delta E^2=\overline {E^2}-\overline{E}^2=\partial^2 \ln Z/\partial \beta^2## you get
$$\Delta E^2=\frac{\epsilon^2 e^{\beta \epsilon}}{(e^{\beta \epsilon}+1)^2}$$
for both. You can try with other energy-independent quantities.
 
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Here is another example, imagine that the higher energy state has a magnetic moment ##m## associated to it, and the lower energy state has a moment ##-m##. The average magnetic moment is
$$\overline{m}=m\frac{\exp(-\beta \epsilon)-1}{\exp(-\beta \epsilon)+1}=m\frac{\exp(-\beta \epsilon/2)-\exp(\beta \epsilon/2)}{\exp(-\beta \epsilon/2)+\exp(\beta \epsilon/2)}$$
which is the same value for both.
 
Another way to check all of this is to write a system with energies ##-E_0## and ##E-E_0##. If you calculate the mean energy it will depend on ##E_0##, but if you write the other two quantities above, ##E_0## will vanish.
 
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pines-demon said:
Well the partition functions cannot be exactly the same because energies are slightly shifted so it matter for energy-level dependent quantities, for example if you calculate the mean energy ##\overline{E}=-\partial \ln Z/\partial \beta## you get:
  1. ##\epsilon/(e^{\beta \epsilon}+1)##
  2. ##\epsilon \tanh(\beta \epsilon/2)/2##
As ##\beta \to 0##, Eq.1 goes to ##\epsilon/2## and Eq.2 goes to ##0## (the average value) as you would expect because of the choice of energy reference.
You can see the shift a little more easily if you rewrite the first partition function ##Z_1## as
$$Z_1 = e^{\beta \epsilon}+1 = e^{\beta \epsilon/2}[\underbrace{2\cosh (\beta \epsilon/2)}_{Z_2}].$$ When you calculate the mean energy, the exponential factor contributes a shift of ##\epsilon/2## to the mean energy you get from the second partition function ##Z_2##.
 
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