Statistical Probability Distributions

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The discussion focuses on verifying the correctness of solutions related to joint probability distributions for two questions. In the first question, the joint probability distribution of X1 and X2 is analyzed, revealing that the initial approach using integration was incorrect; instead, a summation of probabilities for discrete outcomes is required. The corrected probability distribution for Y = X1X2 is established, but concerns arise regarding the normalization of probabilities. The second question examines the joint probability density of Z = XY^2, where the initial conclusion of an infinite result is questioned, prompting further investigation into the calculations. Overall, the thread emphasizes the importance of proper methods in calculating probability distributions and ensuring that results adhere to normalization principles.
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I have two questions, I've completed. I am partially sure that the answers I've obtained are correct, and all I really want is confirmation on whether they are correct or not. If not, what am I doing wrong?

Question 1:

If the joint probability distribution of X1 and X2 is given by:

F(X1,X2) = (X1X2)/36

Where X1 = 1,2,3, and X2 = 1,2,3

a) Find the probability distribution of X1X2.

Solution:

Y = X1X2
X2 = Y/X1
dX2/dY = 1/X1

g(X1,Y) = [X1(Y/X1)/36][|1/X1|] = Y/36X1, For X1=1,2,3, and Y>0

Therefore, h(y) = Integral from 1 to 3: (Y/36X1)dX1 = Yln3/36, for Y>0

h(y) = 0, elsewhere.

b) Find the probability distribution of X1/X2

Solution:

Y = X1/X2
X2 = X1/Y
dX2/dY = -X1/Y^2

g(X1,Y) = [[X1(X1/Y)]/36][|-X1/Y^2|] = X1^3/36Y^3, For X1 = 1,2,3, and Y>0

Therefore, h(Y) = Integral from 1 to 3: (X1^3/36Y^3)dX1 = 5/9Y^3, for Y>0

h(y) = 0, elsewhere

Question 2:

Consider two random variables X and Y with the joint probability density:

f(X,Y) = {12XY(1-Y), for 0<X<1, 0<y<1.
0, elsewhere

Find the probability density of Z=XY^2 to determine the joint probability density of Y and Z and then integrating out Y.

Solution:

Z = XY^2
X = Z/Y^2
dX/dZ = 1/Y^2

g(Y,Z) = 12(Z/Y^2)(Y)(|1/Y^2|) = 12Z/Y^3, for 0<Y<1, and 0<Z<1

h(y) = Integral from 0 to 1: (12Z/Y^3)dy = Infinity, does not exist.


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References: Functions of Random Variables - Transformation Technique of Several Variables.

Thanks in advance. I appreciate it.
 
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Fenix said:
I have two questions, I've completed. I am partially sure that the answers I've obtained are correct, and all I really want is confirmation on whether they are correct or not. If not, what am I doing wrong?

Question 1:

If the joint probability distribution of X1 and X2 is given by:

F(X1,X2) = (X1X2)/36

Where X1 = 1,2,3, and X2 = 1,2,3

a) Find the probability distribution of X1X2.

Solution:

Y = X1X2
X2 = Y/X1
dX2/dY = 1/X1

g(X1,Y) = [X1(Y/X1)/36][|1/X1|] = Y/36X1, For X1=1,2,3, and Y>0

Therefore, h(y) = Integral from 1 to 3: (Y/36X1)dX1 = Yln3/36, for Y>0

h(y) = 0, elsewhere.

These are discrete variables, why do you integrate?

Make tables for probabilities P(X1=i, X2=j) for i, j = 1, 2, 3. For example, P(X1=2, X2=3)=(2*3)/36 = 1/6. You get the same probability when X1=3 and X2=2: P(X1=3, X2=2)=1/6.

Now find the possible values for X1*X2, and the possible values of both X1 and X2 which yield that product.

X1*X2 can have the value of 6 either with X1=2 and X2=3 or with X1=3 and X2=2.

So P(X1X2=6)=P(2,3)+P(3,2)=2*1/6=1/3.

Try to proceed this way.

ehild
 
You're right, that was a careless mistake.

I've corrected it now.

Instead of integration for Part a)

It should now read:

a)

h(y) = Sigma from X1=1 to 3: (Y/36X1) = Y/36+Y/72+Y/108 = 11Y/216, Y>0
h(y) = 0, elsewhere.

b)

h(y) = Sigma from X1=1 to 3: (X1^3/36Y^3) = (1^3+2^3+3^3)/36Y^3
= 36/36Y^3 = 1/Y^3, Y>0
h(y) = 0, elsewhere.

So how about now? Any other errors?

Also, what about the second question? Doesn't it strike you as odd that the answer is infinity?...
 
Fenix said:
You're right, that was a careless mistake.

I've corrected it now.


I am afraid you did it entirely wrong. The sum of h(Y)-s for all possible values of x1*x2 which are 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, must be 1. You can check yourself if your values meet this requirement. They do not.

You got h(Y)=11Y/216. The sum for all possible Y-s is 25*11/216 instead of 1.

Now again.

Y=1 can be only if both X1 and X2 is 1. f(X1,X2)=(X1X2)/36=1/36, so h(1)=1/36.

Y=2 is possible if either X1=1 and X2=2 or X1=2 and X2=1. f(1,2)=f(2,1)=2/36.
h(2)=f(1,2)+f(2,1)= 4/36.

Y=3 is obtained by x1=1 and x2=3 or vice versa. f(1,3)=f(3,1)=3/36, h(3)=6/36.

Yo get in the same way that h(4)= f(2*2) = 4/36;h(6)=f(2.3)+f(3,2)=12/36; h(9)=f(3,3)=9/36.

The sum of all h-s is (1+4+6+12+9)/36 =1.

Continue with question b...

ehild
 
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