Statistics: Adding Z-Scores & Detectors Probability

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The discussion revolves around concepts in statistics, specifically the addition of Z-scores and the calculation of probabilities related to detection events. Participants explore whether Z-scores from different exams can be combined and how to determine the probability of detection by two independent machines.

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  • The original poster questions the validity of adding Z-scores from different exams and seeks clarification on how to interpret these scores. They also inquire about the correct method to calculate the probability of detection by two machines, noting discrepancies between different calculation methods.

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Participants are actively engaging with the questions posed, with some suggesting that the Z-scores cannot be directly added due to differing means and standard deviations. There is also a discussion about the independence of the detection events and the appropriate formula to use for calculating the combined probability, with one participant asserting that a probability of 91% is correct.

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There is an assumption that the events of detection by the two machines are independent, and participants are considering different methods for calculating probabilities, including tree diagrams and multiplication of probabilities.

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Hi,

I'm taking a distance learning course in statistics so there are a few concepts that are not clear to me. First I was wondering if it was possible to add up Z scores. I have a problem in which two students have two different z scores on two exams. Peter has 1,69 on the first one and -0,13 on the second, and Mary has -0,21 on the first one and 1,07 on the second one. Can I add up the Z scores to say that Peter is better?

My second interrogation is with this problem. Two detectors have a probability = to 0,7 of detecting an object. A clerck puts an object under both machines simultaneously. What is the probability that one machine or the other detects it?

So I did MxN to get all the possibilities, =100 and then 7x7 for the detections. I got p=49%, but when I do a tree of all the possibilities, I get 91%. So I'm wondering which way should I solve this problem?
 
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Cyannaca said:
Hi,

I'm taking a distance learning course in statistics so there are a few concepts that are not clear to me. First I was wondering if it was possible to add up Z scores. I have a problem in which two students have two different z scores on two exams. Peter has 1,69 on the first one and -0,13 on the second, and Mary has -0,21 on the first one and 1,07 on the second one. Can I add up the Z scores to say that Peter is better?
Since these are on two exams, the z-scores regarding the first exam are incompatible with z-scores on the second exam. This is because the mean and standard deviation are probably different among the two exams.

My second interrogation is with this problem. Two detectors have a probability = to 0,7 of detecting an object. A clerck puts an object under both machines simultaneously. What is the probability that one machine or the other detects it?

So I did MxN to get all the possibilities, =100 and then 7x7 for the detections. I got p=49%, but when I do a tree of all the possibilities, I get 91%. So I'm wondering which way should I solve this problem?
I think it's safe to assume the two events, machine A detects it and machine B detects it, are independent. What you want to find is p(A v B), the probability that one machine or the other detects it. There is a formula that breaks up p(A v B) into other probabilities, one of them involving A ^ B, the event that both machine detect it. This last probability can be further broken down using the independence of the events. I think 91% is right.
 
Is there a mathematical formula I can use that will give me 91%? I get this answer by drawing a tree of possibilities and MxN gives me 49%...
 
Cyannaca said:
Is there a mathematical formula I can use that will give me 91%? I get this answer by drawing a tree of possibilities and MxN gives me 49%...
Yes.

What you want to find is p(A v B), the probability that one machine or the other detects it. There is a formula that breaks up p(A v B) into other probabilities, one of them involving A ^ B, the event that both machine detect it. This last probability can be further broken down using the independence of the events. I think 91% is right.
 
answer to second question:

0,7*0,3*2=42 percent
because if one machine detects it and the other doesn't, this event's occurring has a probability of 0,7*(1-0,7)=0,7*0,3=0,21

then whatif the other detects it and this one doesn't, so 0,21*2=0,42
 

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