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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of steady state in semiconductors concerning excess carrier concentration, particularly in the context of photon exposure and its effects on carrier generation and recombination. Participants explore the conditions under which a semiconductor can be considered in a steady state versus a transient state.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that when photons are shone on a semiconductor and then turned off, the semiconductor is not in a steady state due to the decreasing excess carrier concentration, indicating a transient state.
  • Others propose that if photons are shone for an extended period, the system will reach a steady state where generation equals recombination.
  • A participant questions the context of the statements, suggesting that they are technically statements rather than questions.
  • One participant references a video discussing excess carrier generation and continuity equations, suggesting that if the excess carrier concentration is at steady state, its time derivative must be zero, thus supporting the first statement's validity.
  • Another participant finds the second statement confusing and discusses the relationship between generation rate and recombination, indicating that at steady state, the excess carrier concentrations are constant values.
  • A question is raised regarding whether the steady state concentration of excess carriers is dependent on the intensity and frequency of the light used on the semiconductor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions for achieving steady state in semiconductors, with no consensus reached on the validity of the statements presented. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of light intensity and frequency on steady state conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully clarified the assumptions underlying their statements, particularly regarding the definitions of steady state and transient state in the context of excess carriers in semiconductors.

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Please check the following questions.

Steady state of semiconductor w.r.t excess carrier.

1. If we shine photons on semiconductor and then turn the light off, semiconductor is not under the steady state condition. (it is under transient state since excess carrier concentration is decreasing)

2. If we shine photons for a long time, then it will reach steady state. (generation=recombination)
 
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kidsasd987 said:
Please check the following questions.

Steady state of semiconductor w.r.t excess carrier.

1. If we shine photons on semiconductor and then turn the light off, semiconductor is not under the steady state condition. (it is under transient state since excess carrier concentration is decreasing)

2. If we shine photons for a long time, then it will reach steady state. (generation=recombination)
Technically, those are statements, not questions... :smile: Is this for schoolwork?
 
berkeman said:
Technically, those are statements, not questions... :smile: Is this for schoolwork?

Sorry. I forgot to add a sentence.

"Please confirm if these statements are true, and if not please tell me why."
 
What is the context of these questions?
 
berkeman said:
What is the context of these questions?


please check this video from 1:06:41 to 1:07:48.

So, the whole ppt is about excess carrier genearation and continuity equation.
But if we find the solution for 1st order ode, delta n(t) is a exponential function and its derivative is also exponential.

if delta n(t) is at steady state, its time derivative must be 0. so, I assume that the first statement is true.
 
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2nd satement is a bit confusing.

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generation rate - recombination = 0 (difussion ->recombination)
therefore, delta n and delta p are constant values, hence steady state.

* is the steady state concentration delta n (or delta p) dependent on the intensity and frequency of light that we shine onto semiconductor?
 
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