Stefan-Boltzman Law Proof with Regards to Solar Radiation

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around verifying the intensity of solar radiation using the Stefan-Boltzmann Law, assuming the Sun behaves as a blackbody emitter with a specified surface temperature. The original poster seeks to confirm a given value through calculus.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the challenges of integrating the Stefan-Boltzmann Law and the implications of using Planck's Law. There are questions about whether the problem requires deriving the Stefan-Boltzmann constant or simply applying it. Some express uncertainty about the integration process and the need for substitution.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants offering insights into the complexity of the integral involved. Some suggest that the integration may not be necessary, while others emphasize the difficulty of the integral and the potential need for advanced mathematical functions.

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There is a focus on the requirement to prove the intensity value using calculus, which raises questions about the expectations of the homework task and the assumptions regarding the integration process.

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Homework Statement



The unit area intensity of radiation from the Sun at the photosphere is 6.33*107 W/m2.

a) Check this value using the calculus of the Stefan-Boltzmann Law, assuming the Sun is a blackbody emitter (\epsilon = 1) with a surface temperature of 5777K.

Homework Equations



Stefan-Boltzmann Law:
E_b = \int_0^∞ \! E_{\lambda,b} \, \mathrm{d} \lambda = σT^4
Planck's Law:
E_{\lambda, b} = {\frac{2\pi hc^2}{\lambda^5[e^{(hc/\lambda kT)}-1]}}

where:

c = 2.998*10^{14} \ \mu m \ s^{-1}
h = 6.626 * 10^{-34} \ J \ s
k = 1.381 * 10^{-23} \ J/K

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure how to solve the integral of the Stefan-Boltzmann Law. I know I can substitute E_{\lambda, b} from Planck's law into the Stefan-Boltzmann law, but I have no idea how to integrate it then. Integration by substitution fails here and I have to prove using calculus, that the sun's E_b is equal to 6.33*107 W/m2. Thanks.
 
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It's not an elementary integral, as you've probably guessed. It involves zeta functions and stuff like that. You can reduce it to a dimensionless integral which contains the hard part. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan–Boltzmann_law But I'm not sure you need to do that. Doesn't it just ask you to use the Stefan-Boltzann constant? You can look that up. Do they really mean you should derive it from Planck's Law?
 
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Thanks for the reply. It's certainly not. The Stefan-Boltzmann constant comes from the integration, right? No, it doesn't say I need to derive it from Planck's law. However, I don't see how to integrate it without the substitution.
 
walterwhite said:
Thanks for the reply. It's certainly not. The Stefan-Boltzmann constant comes from the integration, right? No, it doesn't say I need to derive it from Planck's law. However, I don't see how to integrate it without the substitution.

I don't think you need to do any integration. The Stefan-Boltzmann constant already includes the integral. Just put numbers in. It's a hard integral. Involves functions that aren't elementary. Stuff beyond just substitution and integration by parts.
 
Alright thanks. I'll give it a shot and see if I can come up with anything.
 

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