Stopping the Bus in 100m - Can it be done?

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The discussion revolves around the physics of stopping a bus within a distance of 100 meters, focusing on kinematics and the effects of acceleration and reaction time on stopping distance.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore different methods for calculating stopping distance, including the use of kinematic equations and considerations of reaction time. Questions arise regarding the assumptions made in the calculations and the applicability of textbook solutions.

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Participants are sharing various approaches and discussing the implications of including reaction time in the calculations. Some express appreciation for different methods while others highlight the directness of established formulas. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach, but productive dialogue is ongoing.

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Some participants note the importance of accounting for reaction time in real-world scenarios, suggesting that the initial calculations may not fully represent practical situations.

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Homework Statement
See attached.
Relevant Equations
##s##=##ut##+##\frac{1}{2}at^2##
Find the question and its solution below;

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Find my approach here;
The bus needs to stop at the point where, ##v=0##, therefore we need to find the time taken for the car to come to a stop. using
##v=u+at##
##0=26.67 + (-4)t##
##t##=##\frac {-26.67}{-4}##=##6.6675## seconds

The distance traveled at time, ##t##=##6.6675## is given by;
##s##=##ut##+##\frac{1}{2}at^2##
##s##=##177.822+ (-88.91)##=## 88.91metres< 100 metres##

Conclusion
Yes, the driver can stop in time.

Any other way of looking at this is highly appreciated.
 
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chwala said:
Conclusion
Yes, the driver can stop in time.

Any other way of looking at this is highly appreciated.
The other ways of looking at this are given in the solution of the textbook.
 
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@chwala , your method is better if you want to include the driver's reaction time.
Otherwise the book's solution is more direct (assuming you know the v^2-formula)
since one doesn't have to calculate the stopping time (since no one asked about it).
If you substitute the general expression [for constant acceleration] ##t=(v-u)/a##
into your ##s##-equation [for constant acceleration], you'll get their ##v^2##-formula [for constant acceleration]. (Try it.)
 
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robphy said:
@chwala , your method is better if you want to include the driver's reaction time.
Otherwise the book's solution is more direct (assuming you know the v^2-formula)
since one doesn't have to calculate the stopping time (since no one asked about it).
If you substitute the general expression [for constant acceleration] ##t=(v-u)/a##
into your ##s##-equation [for constant acceleration], you'll get their ##v^2##-formula [for constant acceleration]. (Try it.)
Thanks, I am conversant with the ##v^2##-formula approach.
 
The author indicates that we ought to add ##8## to the final solution as in real life situation; it is highly unlikely to apply the brakes spontaneously after seeing the bus...it takes a few moments...

i.e even after adding;

##[8+88.91=96.91]m<100m##.
 

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