Stress in a concrete support column

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The problem involves determining the optimal geometry of a concrete support column that is 100 meters tall, designed to support a mass of 1000 tonnes while adhering to a maximum allowable stress of 12 MPa in concrete. The context includes considerations of material volume and cost, with a hint referencing the shape of the CN Tower.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of stress and weight, with one participant questioning the correctness of their approach. There are hints about the tapered nature of the CN Tower and inquiries regarding the volume of a trapezoidal cylinder prism.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the uniformity of stress throughout the column, and there is an acknowledgment of the need to determine the optimal shape for the column.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating constraints related to the geometry of the column and the specific requirements of the homework question, including the definition of optimal geometry and the implications of stress distribution.

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Homework Statement



As quoted from the question sheet:
When building a tall support, often the self weight of the support must be considered. For an optimal support, the volume of material, and hence the cost, will be a minimum. If the maximum allowable stress in concrete is 12 MPa, determine the optimal geometry of a column 100 metres tall made of concrete to support a mass of 1000 tonnes at its top. (Hint: think of the shape of the CN tower)

(from a table of values) The weight per cubic meter of concrete is 24 kN/m^3, or 24000 N/m^3.

Use 9.81 m/s^2 as the value of gravitational acceleration.

Homework Equations



Stress = Force per area = F/A

A of a circle = pi(d^2)/4, where d is the diameter

Volume of a cylinder = Ah, A = pi(d^2)/4

The Attempt at a Solution



1000 tonnes = 1.0 E6 kg, so the weight of the mass = 1E6 kg x g = 9.81E6 N
Maximum stress of concrete is 12 MPa = 12E6 Pa
12E6 Pa = (9.81E6 N + (100m)pi(r^2)(24000 N/m^3))/(pi*r^2)
Radius of column = 0.57 m

Is that the correct approach? Thanks in advance.
 
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Hi comicnabster! :smile:

Hint: the CN tower is tapered (different cross-sections all the way up). :wink:
 
Thanks, but now I have another question - how do I find the volume of a trapezoidal cylinder prism? I know how to find the volume of a trapezoidal straight-edge prism but not for the type where the bases are two circles of different areas.
 
All right, I think I got it this time!

So the stress is actually uniform throughout the column, thus it must also be 12 MPa at the top.

I used integration to get the volume of the column (revolve around x-axis).

Conclusion: Lower radius = 0.527 m, upper = 0.510 m
 
comicnabster said:
So the stress is actually uniform throughout the column, thus it must also be 12 MPa at the top.

I used integration to get the volume of the column (revolve around x-axis).

That's right … if the tower is to be minimal, the stress will be the safe maximum all the way up! :smile:

btw, the question asks for the "optimal geometry" … so what is the shape? :wink:
 
I described it as a cone with the top end cut off
 

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