Struggling with vector calculus identity used in E&M derivation

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The discussion revolves around a vector calculus identity used in the derivation of a polarization vector in the context of electrodynamics, specifically from the Landau & Lifschitz series. Participants are exploring the mathematical steps involved in an equation related to the dipole moment per unit volume of a dielectric, including integration techniques and the application of the divergence theorem.

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  • One participant notes that the equation involves integration by parts and suggests that the surface integral arises from Gauss' Divergence theorem.
  • Another participant questions whether the last term in the equation is equivalent to the integral of the polarization over the volume.
  • A different participant provides a derivation involving the divergence of the product of position coordinates and the polarization vector, applying the divergence theorem to relate surface and volume integrals.
  • One participant confirms that the discussion pertains to vector integration by parts and references a resource for further clarification, while also mentioning a specific relationship involving the polarization vector.

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Participants express varying interpretations of the mathematical steps involved, with some agreeing on the use of integration by parts and the divergence theorem, while others raise questions about specific terms in the equation. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple viewpoints presented.

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Participants have not fully resolved the assumptions underlying the integration techniques or the specific definitions of terms used in the context of the polarization vector.

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I don't recognize this vector calculus identity
This one comes from the Landau & Lifschitz series, where they love to make you figure out what they did :).

This is from Chapter 2, section 6 of the Electrodynamics in Continuous Media volume. In showing that the polarization vector is the dipole moment per unit volume of a dielectric, we get this equation:

$$ -\int\vec{r}(\nabla\cdot\vec{P}) dV = - \oint \vec{r} (d\vec{f} \cdot \vec{P}) + \int (\vec{P} \cdot \nabla) \vec{r} dV $$

Off the top of my head I think there's some integration by parts happening and the surface integral comes from an application of Gauss' Divergence theorem. Otherwise it's some vector calculus identity I don't recognize.

I appreciate any help!
 
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I think the last term is equal to the integral of the polarization over the volume am I right?
 
Consider ##\vec{\nabla} \cdot (x \vec{P})##. Suppose ##\Omega## is a volume with a boundary ##\Gamma = \partial \Omega##. Integrating over ##\Omega## with respect to the volume ##dV##, and applying the divergence theorem, gives:

\begin{align*}
\int_\Gamma x \vec{P} \cdot \vec{n} d S & = \int_\Omega \vec{\nabla} \cdot (x \vec{P}) d V
\nonumber \\
& = \int_\Omega x \vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{P} d V + \int_\Omega \vec{P} \cdot \vec{\nabla} x d V
\end{align*}

There are similar expressions for ##\vec{\nabla} \cdot (y \vec{P})## and ##\vec{\nabla} \cdot (z \vec{P})##.
 
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