Student Loan Debt: Is It Worth It to Go to a Better School?

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The discussion revolves around the decision-making process regarding student loan debt in relation to attending a university with a strong reputation versus a less recognized institution. Participants explore the implications of student debt on future educational opportunities, particularly in physics, and share personal experiences related to their educational paths and financial considerations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant discusses their choice to attend the University of Minnesota-Twin Cities for its strong physics program, despite incurring significantly higher debt compared to attending a local university in Las Vegas.
  • Another participant shares their own experience with student loans and the factors that influenced their decision to attend a more expensive university, including better program quality and research opportunities.
  • Some participants suggest considering residency options to reduce tuition costs, highlighting the potential benefits of becoming an in-state student.
  • There is a recommendation to visit both schools to assess fit and to prioritize completing a degree over the prestige of the institution.
  • A question is raised about whether scholarships have been factored into the debt figures discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the value of attending a prestigious school versus the financial burden of student loans. There is no clear consensus on whether the potential benefits of attending a better school outweigh the costs, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various financial considerations, including scholarships and the impact of student loans on future educational opportunities, but do not resolve the complexities of these financial decisions.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering their options for higher education, particularly in physics or related fields, as well as those interested in the financial implications of attending different types of universities.

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Post is kinda lengthy, thanks for reading though.

For starters, I'm from las vegas, so i could go to university there, however, i will be attendting the u of minnesota-twin cities, which is a very good school for physics. If I go to university in las vegas than when i receive my bachelors ill owe approx 12k, but if i go to school at twin cities, ill owe around 47k when i get my bachelors. I am curious about how close to an average student debt that is for others that have received their degreee or are very close. Furthermore, UNLV, the school in vegas, isn't that great of school, whereas the school in minnesota is and has a very good reputation. Does anyone think its worth the money to get the degreee from the better school? Would i be much better prepared for grad school coming from the better school? Would i have a hard time getting into a good/really good grad school coming from a school unknown in the physics world? Any advice will be very appreciated!
 
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I'm an undergrad right now, going into the last half of my junior year (I started in the spring a few years back).

I have an associate's degree from a small private school already, which took me 16 months to get. I took about $6,000 in loans there. I than went on to a city college for a year and a half and took about $5,000 there. I've since transferred to a rather expensive private university and even though I have about $26,000 worth of scholarships and grants, I still took loans totaling about $11,000.

So, all together I'm about $22,000 in the hole so far. I had two opportunities when I wanted transfer: the university that I am attending and described above and a different city college which was much less money. I made the decision to take the loans, and go for the university for a few reason...

1. The mathematics program at the university is orders of magnitude better than the city college.

2. The university is a better all around school.

3. The university is closer to where I live.

4. I was introduced to a professor at the university that welcomed me to do some research work with him should I want to. (We've kept in touch, met a few times over the summer and I'll be working with him a bit come the Fall semester..)

I've stated the reasons for you so that you may see the things that swayed me in one direction. I hope it helps you to make a good decision.
 
CBrown197 said:
Post is kinda lengthy, thanks for reading though.

For starters, I'm from las vegas, so i could go to university there, however, i will be attendting the u of minnesota-twin cities, which is a very good school for physics. If I go to university in las vegas than when i receive my bachelors ill owe approx 12k, but if i go to school at twin cities, ill owe around 47k when i get my bachelors. I am curious about how close to an average student debt that is for others that have received their degreee or are very close. Furthermore, UNLV, the school in vegas, isn't that great of school, whereas the school in minnesota is and has a very good reputation. Does anyone think its worth the money to get the degreee from the better school? Would i be much better prepared for grad school coming from the better school? Would i have a hard time getting into a good/really good grad school coming from a school unknown in the physics world? Any advice will be very appreciated!

I can't speak to the quality of each school - I know nothing about either one.

But if you really have your heart set on the Minnesota school, yet also have an aversion to high debt, there's a way around it. You can move to Minnesota and live there for the time required to become a resident. That varies state-to-state; usually it's one year.

If you chose this option, you need to be able to prove to the admissions office you've been there a year. This usually means providing proof of in-state employment for the last year, or rent/utility bills in your name. Check with the school to see what proof they require.

Then once you're a resident, you will pay the in-state tuition which is much cheaper. Yes, it's a year of waiting, but it may be worth it to go that route.
 
Thanks a lot for the reply, sometimes its hard to get those around here lol. I am thinking i should do the samething but I am really worried about being able to pay the loans back. If anyone else has anything to add i'd appreciate it!
 
lisab said:
I can't speak to the quality of each school - I know nothing about either one.

But if you really have your heart set on the Minnesota school, yet also have an aversion to high debt, there's a way around it. You can move to Minnesota and live there for the time required to become a resident. That varies state-to-state; usually it's one year.

If you chose this option, you need to be able to prove to the admissions office you've been there a year. This usually means providing proof of in-state employment for the last year, or rent/utility bills in your name. Check with the school to see what proof they require.

Then once you're a resident, you will pay the in-state tuition which is much cheaper. Yes, it's a year of waiting, but it may be worth it to go that route.

This is very wise and sensible advice. Something I hadn't thought of.
 
One thing that I would strongly suggest that you do is to pay for some plane tickets, and go to both schools to see how you fit in.

The mistake I think most high school students make is that they worry too much about getting a physics undergraduate degree from a good school, whereas the real challenge is getting a physics degree at all, and so your first goal should be getting in a school where you can finish the degree. The people you really want to talk to are upperclassmen in the physics department.

One other factor is that if you go for a Ph.D., many student loans do not have any interest.
 
Are you factoring in scholarships into those figures?
 

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