Sum of a Convergent Series: (1+2^n) / (3^n) and How to Find It

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence of the series defined by the summation (n=1 to infinity) of (1+2^n) / (3^n) and finding its sum if it converges. Participants are exploring the nature of the series and the methods to analyze it.

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  • Participants discuss the convergence of the series based on initial term observations and question the validity of this approach. There are attempts to express the series in a form suitable for geometric series analysis. Some participants express confusion about manipulating the series and the conditions for splitting it into two parts.

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There is an ongoing exploration of how to determine convergence and the appropriate methods for summing the series. Some participants have begun to apply geometric series formulas and are sharing their findings, while others continue to seek clarification on the convergence criteria and manipulation of series.

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Participants mention the importance of absolute convergence when splitting series and express uncertainty about the methods used to determine convergence, indicating a need for further clarification on this topic.

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Determine whether the series is convergent or divergent. If convergent, find its sum.

Summation (n=1 to infinity) (1+2^n) / (3^n)

I said that it is convergent from looking at the terms. The first couple of terms, you get:

1 + 5/9 + 9/27 + 17/108 + 32/243

It seems as if the numbers are converging to a number.

I don't know how to find the sum. All I know is, the sum of a series is equal to the limit of the sequence of partial sums. And from here I don't know what to do
 
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arl146 said:
Determine whether the series is convergent or divergent. If convergent, find its sum.

Summation (n=1 to infinity) (1+2^n) / (3^n)

I said that it is convergent from looking at the terms. The first couple of terms, you get:

1 + 5/9 + 9/27 + 17/108 + 32/243

It seems as if the numbers are converging to a number.

I don't know how to find the sum. All I know is, the sum of a series is equal to the limit of the sequence of partial sums. And from here I don't know what to do

You generally don't determine convergence or divergence by looking at a few terms. Think about geometric series.
 
How do i determine it then? And i don't know how to move the terms around to get it to the form of a*r^(n-1)
 
$$\sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}\frac{1 + 2^n}{3^n} = \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty}\left(\frac{1}{3^n} + \frac{2^n}{3^n}\right)$$

Does that help?
 
I did that .. About as far as I get .. Am I supposed to put this in a geometric series form? I'm confused
 
Under certain conditions you can split a series that is a sum into the sum of two series. The condition is that all series involved are absolutely convergent.
 
arl146 said:
I did that .. About as far as I get .. Am I supposed to put this in a geometric series form? I'm confused

If you sum from n = 1 to some finite N, then you have two finite geometric series:
\sum_{n=1}^N \left( \frac{1}{3^n} + \frac{2^n}{3^n} \right) = S_1(N) + S_2(N),
where
S_1(N) = \sum_{n=1}^N \left( \frac{1}{3}\right)^n \text{ and } S_2(N) = \sum_{n=1}^N \left( \frac{2}{3}\right)^n. There is no difficulty here in splitting up the sum into two parts, because the sums all have a finite number of terms. Each of S1(N) and S2(N) have well-defined limits as N → ∞ (given, in fact, by the geometric sum formula), so we get a nice limit for the whole sum.

RGV
 
Ok I did that too so for the (1/3)^n , a=1/3 and r=1/3? So that sum is a/(1-r) = (1/3)/(1-(1/3)) = 1/2

And for (2/3)^n, a=2/3 and r=2/3 so the sum is (2/3)/(1-(2/3)) = 2

And together that is 5/2 ok I got it now thanks! I always make the problems more difficult than they are
 
arl146 said:
I always make the problems more difficult than they are
Don't do that! :smile:
 
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I know I wish I could stop that! By the way, so how do i find out of the series is convergent or divergent, since someone said that you can't do it by plugging in a few numbers
 
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Mark44 said:
Under certain conditions you can split a series that is a sum into the sum of two series. The condition is that all series involved are absolutely convergent.

Surely

\sum a_n+b_n=\sum a_n + \sum b_n

holds for every convergent series?? As long as you don't rearrange terms, I don't see why you need absolute convergence.
 
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Micromass, can you explain to me how to determine whether a series is convergent or divergent? Because I just plug numbers in and see if they seem to come to a certain number
 

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