Sum of a vector parallel and orthogonal to.

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The problem involves expressing a vector u as a sum of a vector that is parallel to another vector v and a vector that is orthogonal to v. The vectors in question are defined in a three-dimensional space.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the projection of vector u onto vector v and how to express u as a sum of its components. There is an exploration of the relationship between the projection and the orthogonal component, with some questioning the notation and definitions used.

Discussion Status

Some participants are confirming their calculations and reasoning regarding the projection and orthogonal components. There is an acknowledgment of the relationship between the vectors and a discussion of the implications of the notation used. The conversation is ongoing with various interpretations being explored.

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There is a focus on ensuring that the orthogonal component is correctly identified and validated through the dot product. Participants are also considering the implications of linear operators in the context of vector projections.

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Homework Statement


v = 3i - j u = 2i + j - 3k
Express vector u as a sum of a vector parallel to v and a vector orthogonal to v.

Homework Equations


Proj of u onto v = [ (u • v) / |v|^2 ]v
Expressing vector u as sum of a vector parappel to v and a vector vector orthogonal to v
>> u = [Proj of u onto v] + u

The Attempt at a Solution


I found the projection of vector u onto v which is [1/2](3i - j) then added it to vector u = 2i + j - 3k to get
u = [7/2] i + [1/2] j - 3 k <<==>> Vector u expressed as the sum of a vector parallel to v and orthogonal to v.

I would like to receive assistance to assure that what I've done works.
 
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Differentiate1 said:

Homework Statement


v = 3i - j u = 2i + j - 3k
Express vector u as a sum of a vector parallel to v and a vector orthogonal to v.

Homework Equations


Proj of u onto v = [ (u • v) / |v|^2 ]v
Expressing vector u as sum of a vector parappel to v and a vector vector orthogonal to v
>> u = [Proj of u onto v] + u

The Attempt at a Solution


I found the projection of vector u onto v which is [1/2](3i - j) then added it to vector u = 2i + j - 3k to get
u = [7/2] i + [1/2] j - 3 k <<==>> Vector u expressed as the sum of a vector parallel to v and orthogonal to v.

I would like to receive assistance to assure that what I've done works.
I will use the notation Pu for the projection of u onto the 1-dimensional subspace spanned by v. You're saying that u=Pu+u. But that would mean that Pu=0 (since you can cancel u from both sides).

If u=Pu+w, then what is w? (I think you will find that the answer is automatically orthogonal to v).
 
Thanks for the reply. I believe I've found it and the check I used enhances the answer I got. Instead of just Pu + w, I did, w - Pu to get an orthogonal vector to v. The dot product of (w - Pu) with vector v came out with a scalar of 0, which proves it's orthogonal.
 
Right, if you solve u=Pu+w, you get w=u-Pu, and this vector is orthogonal to v.

If P is any linear operator, you can write u=Pu+(1-P)u. If P is the orthogonal projection onto some subspace M, then Pu will be an element of M, and (1-P)u will be orthogonal to every element of M.
 

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