Sum Of Products Notation: Is It Correct?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the correctness of "Sum Of Products" notation in mathematical expressions. Participants explore the clarity and formatting of mathematical notation, including the use of parentheses and limits in summation and product expressions. The conversation touches on the broader topic of standards in mathematical writing and notation.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the "Sum Of Products" notation is correct, assuming the underlying equation is valid.
  • One participant points out that the lower limit on the product is incorrect by one, while another participant agrees but emphasizes their main concern is the notation itself.
  • There is a discussion about whether the upper limit in the product needs to be in parentheses, with some suggesting that clarity is key, while others argue that parentheses are not necessary if the expression is clear.
  • Participants express frustration over the lack of clear guides on mathematical notation and the variability in how notation is presented in different contexts.
  • One participant mentions that clarity is essential and provides an example of how ambiguous notation can lead to misinterpretation.
  • Another participant highlights that there is no universal standard for mathematical notation, emphasizing that clarity and context are what matter most.
  • Some participants express a desire for official references on mathematical notation standards, noting the challenges of finding such resources.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of clarity in mathematical notation, but there is no consensus on whether specific formatting rules should be followed. Multiple competing views on the necessity of parentheses and the existence of universal standards remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the way expressions are written can depend on context, and there are rules for when certain notations can be used. However, these rules are not universally agreed upon, leading to ambiguity and differing interpretations.

  • #31
töff said:
So as long as I get my meaning across, it doesn't matter how I spell and punctuate my formulae?


I presume you're using spell and punctuate as analogies here. If you deliberately use a notation that has a reasonably universal meaning without explaining your new meaning you're making a mistake: it is up to you to explain what you mean with as much labouring the point as necessary.
 
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  • #32
matt grime said:
I'm reasonably sure no one has seen fit to catalogue every single possible way to draw the letter s, either.
Oh God yes they have, from the Phoenicians through the Greeks and Hebrews, Shin to Sigma to S, all the Roman capitals, the Cyrillic alphabet, even the Cherokee syllabary ... there are histories of western writing systems, books about typefaces and letterforms, calligraphy manuals, analyses of medieval illuminated manuscripts, auctions for old lead or wooden typesetting blocks ... good lord, you could make a career of the letter "S" up to and including Superman's cape.

Well, although I am still surprised at the lack of ANY standardized notation reference whatsoever (except lists of basic symbols, with minimal to no notes about usage), I suppose I must admit that I've made a poor assumption about the field of professional mathematics, and I'll just concede failure. Thanks to everyone who was patient enough to keep explaining it.

And thanks for validating my original equation, too! :cool:
 
  • #33
töff said:
Oh God yes they have, from the Phoenicians through the Greeks and Hebrews, Shin to Sigma to S, all the Roman capitals, the Cyrillic alphabet, even the Cherokee syllabary ... there are histories of western writing systems, books about typefaces and letterforms, calligraphy manuals, analyses of medieval illuminated manuscripts, auctions for old lead or wooden typesetting blocks ... good lord, you could make a career of the letter "S" up to and including Superman's cape.

Not what I meant. Catalogue every single individual persons own way of writing the letter s, not the generic stylistic forms of large groups of people.
 
  • #34
I fail to see the analogy.

In fact I believe I have failed to communicate just about completely.

*sigh* And I call myself a writer. HAH!
 
  • #35
As long as it is understandable as an 's' you can understand what it is trying to convey. Similarly with every use of the sigma for sum: as long as people understand what it is trying to convey...
 
  • #36
I believe this is what you are looking for: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_mathematical_symbols

But keep in mind that the symbols do not make up mathematics; the ideas behind those symbols do. You can use whatever notation you want, as long as you are consistent, and define them before hand.

For example, I could define $ = e for my purposes. So I could write "L$t $psilon b$ gr$at$r than z$ro", and though it is "unconventional", the ideas behind the sentence is invariant under notational change.
 
  • #37
That Wiki page raises more questions than answers, and anyway it's not what I had in mind.

But thanks for the link. I do appreciate your effort.

Like I said, I have conceded defeat on the matter.
 

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