Sum series- convergence and divergence

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The discussion centers on the convergence or divergence of the series $$\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} a_n$$ where $$a_1 = \frac{1}{3}$$ and $$a_{n+1} = \sqrt[n]{a_n}$$. Participants analyze the behavior of the sequence $$a_n$$, concluding that $$\lim_{n \to \infty} a_n = 1$$, which indicates that the series diverges since the terms do not approach zero. A numerical experiment and induction are suggested as methods to demonstrate that the sequence is non-decreasing and bounded below, confirming divergence.

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converge or diverge?

$$\sum_{n=1}^{^{\infty }}a_{n} $$

$$a_{1}= \frac{1}{3}, a_{n+1}= \sqrt[n]{a_{n}}

$$
Im having problems to solve this exercise, i would like to see your solutions
 
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Chipset3600 said:
converge or diverge?

$$\sum_{n=1}^{^{\infty }}a_{n} $$

$$a_{1}= \frac{1}{3}, a_{n+1}= \sqrt[n]{a_{n}}

$$
Im having problems to solve this exercise, i would like to see your solutions

Defining $\displaystyle \lambda_{n} = \ln a_{n}$ the difference equation becomes...

$\displaystyle \lambda_{n+1} = \frac{\lambda_{n}}{n}\ (1)$

... and for any $\displaystyle a_{1} \ne 0$ is $\displaystyle \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \lambda_{n}=0$, so that $\displaystyle \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} a_{n}=1$, so that...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
chisigma said:
Defining $\displaystyle \lambda_{n} = \ln a_{n}$ the difference equation becomes...

$\displaystyle \lambda_{n+1} = \frac{\lambda_{n}}{n}\ (1)$

... and for any $\displaystyle a_{1} \ne 0$ is $\displaystyle \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \lambda_{n}=0$, so that $\displaystyle \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} a_{n}=1$, so that...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

I don't understood...
Why u said that : $$\lambda_{n} = \ln a_{n}$$ ?
 
Chipset3600 said:
I don't understood...
Why u said that : $$\lambda_{n} = \ln a_{n}$$ ?

It is the first step to demonstrate that $\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} a_{n}=1$...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
chisigma said:
It is the first step to demonstrate that $\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} a_{n}=1$...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

Still don't understanding, and i never study "difference equation".
 
Chipset3600 said:
Still don't understanding, and i never study "difference equation".

Yourself wrote...

$\displaystyle a_{1}= \frac{1}{3},\ a_{n+1} = \sqrt[n] {a_{n}}\ (1)$

That is a 'difference equation' the solution of which is $\displaystyle a_{n}$...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
chisigma said:
Yourself wrote...

$\displaystyle a_{1}= \frac{1}{3},\ a_{n+1} = \sqrt[n] {a_{n}}\ (1)$

That is a 'difference equation' the solution of which is $\displaystyle a_{n}$...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

Im really trying to understand, but sorry!
resolution is too advanced for me to realize
 
Chipset3600 said:
Im really trying to understand, but sorry!
resolution is too advanced for me to realize

If You intend to improve Your knowledge about difference equations, on MHB there is a tutorial thread...

http://mathhelpboards.com/discrete-mathematics-set-theory-logic-15/difference-equation-tutorial-draft-part-i-426.html

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
chisigma's suggestion is to see what happens to the original equation $a_{n+1}= \sqrt[n]{a_{n}}$ when we make a definition $\lambda_n=\ln(a_n)$. Then \[\lambda_{n+1}\stackrel{\text{def}}{=} \ln(a_{n+1})= \ln((a_n)^{1/n}) =\ln(a_n)/n \stackrel{\text{def}}{=}\lambda_n/n\] Thus, $\lambda_n\to0$ as $n\to\infty$, and $a_n=e^{\lambda_n}\to e^0=1$ as $n\to\infty$.
 
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The definition used is that it was strange for me...
My teacher give me other solution.
Taking the limit it will be equal to 1.
$$a_{n} = (\frac{1}{3})^{\frac{1}{n!}}$$
 
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Chipset3600 said:
converge or diverge?

$$\sum_{n=1}^{^{\infty }}a_{n} $$

$$a_{1}= \frac{1}{3}, a_{n+1}= \sqrt[n]{a_{n}}

$$
Im having problems to solve this exercise, i would like to see your solutions

A quick numerical experiment shows that $$a_n \to 1$$ and if this is indeed the case the series $$\sum_{n=1}^{^{\infty }}a_{n} $$ diverges since to converge $$a_n$$ must go to zero.

The simplest method of proving that $$a_n \not\to 0$$ is to show that if $$0<a_1<a_k<1$$ then $$0<a_1<a_{k+1}<1$$ which will show that $$a_n$$ is bounded below by $$a_1$$.

The approach I would use is induction based on the observation that if $$0<a_k<1$$ and $$a_{k+1}=\sqrt[k]{a_{k}}$$ then:

$$a_{k+1} < 1$$

and

$$a_{k+1}^k=a_k$$

but for any $$\kappa>1$$ we now can conclude $$a_{k+1}^{\kappa}<a_{k+1}$$ and so:

$$a_k<a_{k+1}$$

Thus $$\{a_n\}$$ is an increasing sequence and so bounded below by its first term.

In addition any other method that shows that $$\{a_n\}$$ is an non-decreasing sequence would do (which includes at least one form of the ratio test).

.
 

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