Sum to Infinity of a Geometric Series

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The problem involves finding the sum of the first 10 terms of a geometric series with a first term of 1 and a common ratio defined as \(\frac{1}{2}\sin(2\theta)\), specifically when \(\theta = \frac{\pi}{4}\). The original poster is tasked with expressing the answer in a particular form involving whole numbers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the formula for the sum of a geometric series but encounters difficulties with the common ratio calculation. Some participants question the calculation of \(\sin(2\theta)\) and its implications for the series sum. Others suggest clarifying trigonometric values and their usage in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing hints and clarifications regarding trigonometric functions. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly compute the series sum, with various interpretations of the calculations being discussed. Some guidance has been offered regarding the values of sine at specific angles, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of familiarity with trigonometric identities among some participants, which may be affecting their ability to progress in solving the problem. The original poster expresses a need for patience as they revisit foundational concepts in mathematics.

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Homework Statement



Q.: A geometric series has first term 1 and common ratio [itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex]sin2[itex]\theta[/itex]. Find the sum of the first 10 terms when [itex]\theta[/itex] = [itex]\frac{\pi}{4}[/itex], giving your answer in the form h - [itex]\frac{1}{2^k}[/itex], where h, k [itex]\in[/itex] N.

Homework Equations



Sn = [itex]\frac{a(1 - r^n)}{1 - r}[/itex], when IrI < 1

The Attempt at a Solution



S10 = [itex]\frac{a(1 - r^n)}{1 - r}[/itex]

S10 = [itex]\frac{1(1 - (1/2)sin2(\pi/ 4) to the power of 10}{1 - (1/2)sin2(\pi/4)}[/itex] ... The tags did not take, for some reason, hence the 'to the power of 10'. Sorry about that.

I'm stuck here because if I solve for [itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex]sin2[itex]\theta[/itex], I get a decimal answer = 0.013706. The question wants the answer defined as whole numbers but I'm unable to work out the next step in the sequence. Can someone help and give me a tip on what to do next? Thanks.

Ans.: From textbook: 2 - (1/ 29)
 
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odolwa99 said:
I'm stuck here because if I solve for [itex]\frac{1}{2}[/itex]sin2[itex]\theta[/itex], I get a decimal answer = 0.013706.

How did you get that?

[itex]\sin(2\theta)=\sin(\pi/2)[/itex]

has a nice answer, no?
 
Ok, so the sum is now...

[itex]\frac{1 - (1/2)sin(\pi/ 2)tothepowerof10}{1 - (1/2)sin(\pi/ 2)}[/itex]

so...

1 - (1/2)sin([itex]\pi[/itex]/ 2)10 = 1 - (1/2)sin(\pi/ 2)
1 - 1 - (1/2)sin([itex]\pi[/itex]/ 2)10 + (1/2)sin(\pi/ 2)
- (1/2)sin([itex]\pi[/itex]/ 2)9

Ok, obviously I'm wrong but this is what my attempt looks like. Thanks for the help so far but can you help me out a little bit more...please? Thanks.
 
What is [itex]\sin(\pi /2)[/itex]?? Isn't that a nice value?
 
Err...In a right angled triangle, Sin( [itex]\theta[/itex] ) = Opposite/ Hypotenuse...?
 
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odolwa99 said:
Err...In a right angled triangle, Sin( [itex]\theta[/itex] ) = Opposite/ Hypotenuse...?

Go check your trigonometric formula's...

You should really know things like [itex]\sin(0)[/itex] and [itex]\sin(\pi/2)[/itex] by heart.
 
Ok. Sorry about all this. It's literally been years since I last studied maths and I'm having to begin from scratch all over again. You'll have to be patient with this old man. I'll see what I can find out from your advice and show my work tomorrow. Good night.
 
odolwa99 said:
Ok. Sorry about all this. It's literally been years since I last studied maths and I'm having to begin from scratch all over again. You'll have to be patient with this old man. I'll see what I can find out from your advice and show my work tomorrow. Good night.

It's alright. This might be helpful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigonometric_identities
 
Ok, so here is, hopefully, my final attempt...

S10 = [itex]\frac{1(1 - (1/2)sin2(\pi/ 4)tothepowerof10)}{1 - (1/2)sin2(\pi/ 4)}[/itex]

S10 = [itex]\frac{1 - (1/2)sin(2\pi/ 4)tothepowerof10}{1 - (1/2)sin(2\pi/ 4)}[/itex]

S10 = [itex]\frac{1 - (1/2)sin(\pi/ 2)tothepowerof10}{1 - (1/2)sin(\pi/ 2)}[/itex]

S10 = [itex]\frac{1 - (1/2)(\sqrt{4}/2)tothepowerof10}{1 - (1/2)(\sqrt{4}/2)}[/itex]

S10 = [itex]\frac{1 - (2/ 4)tothepowerof10}{1 - (2/ 4)}[/itex]

S10 = [itex]\frac{1 - (1/2)tothepowerof10}{(1/2)}[/itex]

S10 = 2 - [itex]\frac{1}{2^9}[/itex]
 
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Are you talking about [itex]sin^{10}(\pi/2)[/itex] or [itex]sin((\pi/2)^{10})[/itex]?

[itex]sin(\pi/2)= 1[/itex], but why in the world would you write that as "[itex]\sqrt{4}/2[/itex]"?
 
  • #11
HallsofIvy said:
Are you talking about [itex]sin^{10}(\pi/2)[/itex] or [itex]sin((\pi/2)^{10})[/itex]?

[itex]sin(\pi/2)= 1[/itex], but why in the world would you write that as "[itex]\sqrt{4}/2[/itex]"?
I've seen some texts present the trig functions in this way as a mnemnonic device.

[itex]sin(0)= \sqrt{0}/2[/itex]
[itex]sin(\pi/6)= \sqrt{1}/2[/itex]
[itex]sin(\pi/4)= \sqrt{2}/2[/itex]
[itex]sin(\pi/3)= \sqrt{3}/2[/itex]
[itex]sin(\pi/2)= \sqrt{4}/2[/itex]

The OP might have been referring to something like this, and didn't realize that [itex]\sqrt{4}/2[/itex] could and should be replaced with 1.
 
  • #12
Based on the answer, I solved the question as sin(([itex]\pi[/itex]/ 2)10).

As regards, expressing sin([itex]\pi[/itex]/ 4) as [itex]\frac{\sqrt{4}}{2}[/itex]; yes, I was using the mnemonic but, as I indicated above, this is the first time I've dealt with these kinds of equations so I'll express it as 1, henceforth.

Thanks for helping, guys. I really do appreciate it.
 
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