Summing a series- Taylor series/ complex no.s?

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The discussion centers on finding the sums of three series, S1, S2, and S3, which are identified as Taylor series related to the exponential function e^x. Participants confirm that the derivatives of these series are interrelated: the derivative of S1 is S3, S2 is S1, and S3 is S2. A differential equation S1'' + S1' + S1 = e^x is proposed, leading to a general solution involving constants A and B, which participants discuss solving through boundary conditions.

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Homework Statement



Find the sums of the following series:
S1=1+(x^3)/(3!)+(x^6)/(6!)+...
S2=x+(x^4)/(4!)+(x^7)/(7!)+...
S3=(x^2)/(2!)+(x^5)/(5!)+(x^8)/(8!)+...

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Perhaps Taylor series?

The Attempt at a Solution



I spotted that adding S1+S2+S3=e^x, but I don't know how to proceed.
Thanks in advance for helping. :-)

(Our teacher did warn us that this is a tough question.)
 
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We're studying complex numbers at the moment, so I'm guessing this is to do with real and imaginary parts, if that helps.
 
Hi Lucy Yeats! :smile:
Lucy Yeats said:
Perhaps Taylor series?

These series are Taylor series! :wink:
Lucy Yeats said:
I spotted that adding S1+S2+S3=e^x, but I don't know how to proceed.
Thanks in advance for helping. :-)

Sharp!

You only need one more observation.
What is the derivative of S2?
 
The derivative of S2 is S1.
The derivative of S3 is S2.
The derivative of S1 is S3.
 
I have a problem solving stellar numbers 1,3,6,10,15 thanks for your help and clarification
for creating the general statement
 
I have another idea:
If S2=S1" and S3=S1', and S1+S2+S3=e^x,
can I write a differential equation in S1?
S1"+S1'+S1=e^x
If you solve for S1, you get (1/3)(e^x)+(e^-0.5)(Acos3x+Bsin3x)
This is a general solution, so how would I get rid of the constants A and B?
Does this method look okay, or am I looking at this the wrong way?
 
Lucy Yeats said:
The derivative of S2 is S1.
The derivative of S3 is S2.
The derivative of S1 is S3.

Yes... so you can set up a differential equation.
The solutions should correspond to S1, S2, and S3.
RaghdGeorgie said:
I have a problem solving stellar numbers 1,3,6,10,15 thanks for your help and clarification
for creating the general statement

Huh? :confused:
 
Lucy Yeats said:
I have another idea:
If S2=S1" and S3=S1', and S1+S2+S3=e^x,
can I write a differential equation in S1?
S1"+S1'+S1=e^x
If you solve for S1, you get (1/3)(e^x)+(e^-0.5)(Acos3x+Bsin3x)
This is a general solution, so how would I get rid of the constants A and B?
Does this method look okay, or am I looking at this the wrong way?

I was just suggesting that! :approve:

Solve for the boundary conditions that S1(0)=1, S1'(0)=0, and S1''(0)=0.

But before you do, you should check the period of your cosine and sine.
(I get a different period. :shy:)
 
(1/3)(e^x)+(e^-0.5)(Acos(3x/2)+Bsin(3x/2))

Is that right for sine and cosine?

Thanks for being so helpful! :-)
 
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I get B=0 and A=2/3.
Does that sound right?
 
  • #11
Lucy Yeats said:
(1/3)(e^x)+(e^-0.5)(Acos(3x/2)+Bsin(3x/2))

Is that right for sine and cosine?

Actually, I get:
{e^x \over 3}+ e^{-{x \over 2}}(A \cos({\sqrt 3 \over 2} x)+B \sin({\sqrt 3 \over 2} x))
Lucy Yeats said:
Thanks for being so helpful! :-)

:smile:
 
  • #12
I'll check again later- I must have made an error in the algebra.

Thanks! Have a great day!
 

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