Superman-Inspired Skinsuit: Capable of 4,000mph & 500Gees

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a fictional superhero's capabilities, specifically focusing on the physics of a skinsuit designed to withstand extreme speeds and accelerations. Participants explore the implications of these physical limits in both atmospheric and outer space conditions, as well as the time required for interplanetary travel at high speeds.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the skinsuit can handle speeds of up to 4,000 mph and 500 gees of acceleration, questioning if this limit holds in outer space.
  • Another participant suggests that a higher limit, such as 10,000 gees, might be more reasonable for the suit's capabilities.
  • There is a discussion about the time required to accelerate to half the speed of light, with one participant calculating it to be over 20 days, while another suggests a much shorter time of around 3.5 hours using an online calculator.
  • Participants debate the effects of acceleration and deceleration on travel time to Mars, with various calculations and assumptions about distance and speed presented.
  • Some participants mention the need for additional considerations such as potential obstacles in space, which could affect the superhero's journey.
  • There is a discussion about the efficiency of travel, with suggestions that a straight-line path is the most efficient for the superhero's journey.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the maximum acceleration the skinsuit can handle, the time required for interplanetary travel, and the implications of acceleration and deceleration on the superhero's journey. No consensus is reached on these points.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various equations and concepts related to kinematics and acceleration, but there is uncertainty regarding the specific equations needed for calculating travel time and distance. Some assumptions about the superhero's capabilities and the nature of space travel remain unresolved.

  • #31
chasrob said:
Spider silk can handle 109,000g? Amazing. So if the superman takes off from Earth orbit in the traditional flight stance, in his spider silk duds, I calculate he will land on Mars little more than 15 minutes later. Thanks.
Oops, my bad again. 25-26 minutes travel time.
 
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Given Mr. Brick's unexplained abilities and as a long time Superman fan, why bother with decelerating?

Unless you have a pressing plot point midway in the trip such as an alien artifact for Brick, just have your hero zip to Mars. Superman only accelerated as required by the graphics and story lines and rarely bothered decelerating AFAIK. Ka-El simply 'absorbs' his momentum with a superhero landing on his strong legs.

Heinlein describes a "skew-flip" maneuver in "Have Space Suit -- Will Travel" so that his protagonists, Kip and Peewee, can determine they are halfway to Luna and also give the characters something to do during the boring trip. The propulsion system is otherwise not described. Kip Later calculates trip times and distance then velocities and accelerations for the alien flying saucer -- actually shaped as an oblate spheroid according to Peewee -- given a 5 day trip Luna to Pluto to occupy his time while trapped in a dungeon by the Wormfaces, but I digress.

Note: I have not read a Superman comic for many years but I have seen most of the major films and would be amazed if Ka-El now bothers to turn over midway in a trip to decelerate. For skin suits consider coping Flash?
 
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  • #33
Klystron said:
Given Mr. Brick's unexplained abilities and as a long time Superman fan, why bother with decelerating?

Unless you have a pressing plot point midway in the trip such as an alien artifact for Brick, just have your hero zip to Mars. Superman only accelerated as required by the graphics and story lines and rarely bothered decelerating AFAIK. Ka-El simply 'absorbs' his momentum with a superhero landing on his strong legs.

Heinlein describes a "skew-flip" maneuver in "Have Space Suit -- Will Travel" so that his protagonists, Kip and Peewee, can determine they are halfway to Luna and also give the characters something to do during the boring trip. The propulsion system is otherwise not described. Kip Later calculates trip times and distance then velocities and accelerations for the alien flying saucer -- actually shaped as an oblate spheroid according to Peewee -- given a 5 day trip Luna to Pluto to occupy his time while trapped in a dungeon by the Wormfaces, but I digress.

Note: I have not read a Superman comic for many years but I have seen most of the major films and would be amazed if Ka-El now bothers to turn over midway in a trip to decelerate. For skin suits consider coping Flash?
According to the SUVAT equations, if Mr. Brick comes to a stop in one second (from 99,555 miles per second), his spider silk suit will suffer 16 million and change gees. He can absorb that, being invulnerable, but the suit will shred and the Martians will charge him with indecent exposure. :) The aliens also outfitted the suit with an altimeter, speedometer (so he wouldn’t trash the suit going faster than 4,000 mph in atmosphere), and a timer, which comes in handy when he wants to know when to coast or de-accelerate during interplanetary ventures. I could just give him an invulnerable outfit like Supes or Flash, but I thought I’d throw in that suit problem to give him another thing to deal with after he’s transformed into a super.

That Heinlein book "Have Space Suit -- Will Travel"? Have to give it a read, sounds very interesting, how he calculates trip times, etc.
 
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