Superpositions and complex structures

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of superpositions and entanglement in quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to complex structures of subatomic particles. Participants explore theoretical implications of these concepts on the behavior and interactions of particles like quarks and protons.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that if subatomic particles are entangled in their eigenstate space-time positions, then complex structures made up of these particles would also be entangled in their superpositions.
  • Another participant argues that non-elementary particles can be treated as elementary at low energies, but at high energies, they must be considered as multi-particle systems, complicating the understanding of entanglement and wave function collapse.
  • A different participant expresses confusion regarding the implications of wave function collapse on entanglement, questioning whether strong forces maintain the structure of particles even after decoherence.
  • One participant indicates a lack of understanding of the previous post, suggesting that clarity is needed in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of wave function collapse and entanglement, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of eigenstate space-time positions and the conditions under which particles can be treated as elementary or non-elementary. The complexities of multi-particle systems and their behavior under different energy conditions are also not fully resolved.

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So I get that when starting at Eigenstate A all super-positions wave functions are collapsed do to entanglement with "observed eigenstate A.
My theoretical question is since sub-atomic particles are entangled in there "eigenstate" space-time positions, wouldn't that mean that complex structures of sub atomic particles such as matter that contain quarks, strong force, gluons, ect...would also be entangled in" the there super-position(s) as well, making up the same complex structures in there other eigenstate superposition(s) in theory ?
 
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You can treat non-elementary particles like protons like elementary particles if the energies are low enough. If the energy is high enough, you have to consider the constituents individually, and you get a multi-particle system (which still follows the laws of quantum mechanics, of course, but is is much more complex).
Billmyk said:
So I get that when starting at Eigenstate A all super-positions wave functions are collapsed do to entanglement with "observed eigenstate A.
Collapse means no entanglement any more.
Billmyk said:
My theoretical question is since sub-atomic particles are entangled in there "eigenstate" space-time positions
There are no "eigenstate space-time positions".
 
Ok, thanks
 
I understand what your saying, I thought if entanglement ends at wave collapse in a complex structure of particles strong force is holding them together so they remain in a structured state. At the super positions but decohersed
 
I don't understand that post.
 

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