Surface area of x = ln(y) - y^2/8 from 1 to e

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The discussion revolves around finding the surface area of the curve defined by the equation x = ln(y) - y^2/8 when rotated about the y-axis, specifically over the interval [1, e]. The participants are examining the setup of the integral for surface area calculation.

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of the surface area integral and express uncertainty about the correctness of the derivative used in the integral's setup. There are questions regarding the simplification of the term under the square root in the surface area formula.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into their calculations and questioning each other's approaches. There is no explicit consensus yet, but some guidance on the derivative calculation has been shared.

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Homework Statement


Find the area of the surface obtained from rotating the curve x = ln(y) - y^2/8 on [1,e] about the y-axis.

Homework Equations


SA = \int 2\pi*(f(x))*\sqrt{1+[f'(x)]^2}dx

The Attempt at a Solution


SA = \int 2\pi*(ln(y) - \frac{y^2}{8}))*\sqrt{1+\frac{9}{16*y^2}}dy from 1 to e

I don't know how to solve this integral, which makes me thing I set it up wron.g
 
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NWeid1 said:

Homework Statement


Find the area of the surface obtained from rotating the curve x = ln(y) - y^2/8 on [1,e] about the y-axis.


Homework Equations


SA = \int 2\pi*(f(x))*\sqrt{1+[f'(x)]^2}dx


The Attempt at a Solution


SA = \int 2\pi*(ln(y) - \frac{y^2}{8}))*\sqrt{1+\frac{9}{16*y^2}}dy from 1 to e

I don't know how to solve this integral, which makes me thing I set it up wron.g

I don't think you did the sqrt(1+f'(y)^2) part right. Can you show how you worked that out?
 
That was the equation that my prof. gave me, lol
 
NWeid1 said:
That was the equation that my prof. gave me, lol

I'm saying I don't think you simplified 1+f'(y)^2 correctly when f(y)=ln(y)-y^2/8. You should get something inside the square root that becomes a perfect square. I'm asking how you got that part to be 1+9/(16y^2)? I don't think that's right.
 
oh ok. I took the derivative of x = lny - \frac{y^2}{8} and got

x = \frac{1}{y} - \frac{1}{4y} and squared it to get

\frac{1}{y^2} - \frac{1}{2y^2} + \frac{1}{16y^2} which is

\frac{16}{16y^2} - \frac{8}{16y^2} + \frac{1}{16y^2} which is

\frac{9}{16y^2}
 
NWeid1 said:
oh ok. I took the derivative of x = lny - \frac{y^2}{8} and got

x = \frac{1}{y} - \frac{1}{4y} and squared it to get

\frac{1}{y^2} - \frac{1}{2y^2} + \frac{1}{16y^2} which is

\frac{16}{16y^2} - \frac{8}{16y^2} + \frac{1}{16y^2} which is

\frac{9}{16y^2}

The derivative of that is \frac{1}{y}-\frac{y}{4}. That's where you are starting to go wrong.
 

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