Swinging from a vine (circular motion/tension problem)

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The problem involves Tarzan swinging from a vine to cross a river, with specific parameters including his mass, the length of the vine, and his speed at the lowest point of the swing. The breaking strength of the vine is also a critical factor in determining whether he can safely cross.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations related to tension in the vine, questioning the accuracy of the original poster's solution and the precision of the values used. There are suggestions to consider rounding and significant figures.

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There is a mention of the vine's breaking strength and the implications of exceeding this limit, as well as a focus on the precision of the numerical values presented in the calculations.

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Tarzan (m = 85.0 kg) tries to cross a river by swinging from a vine. The vine is 10.5 m long, and his speed at the bottom of the swing (as he just clears the water) is 9.00 m/s. Tarzan doesn't know that the vine has a breaking strength of 1000 N. Find the tension on the vine. Does he make it safely across the river?

m = 85.0 kg, r = 10.5 m, v = 9.00 m/s, T = ?
fc = mac, ac = v2/r, therefore fc = mv2/r

sigma f = m(v2/r)
T - mg = m(v2/r)
T - (85)(9.8) = (85)(92)/(10.5)
T - (833) = 655.714
T = 1488.71, no

Solution is wrong. Can someone point me in the right direction, or point out my mistakes? Thanks in advance!
 
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closer said:
Tarzan (m = 85.0 kg) tries to cross a river by swinging from a vine. The vine is 10.5 m long, and his speed at the bottom of the swing (as he just clears the water) is 9.00 m/s. Tarzan doesn't know that the vine has a breaking strength of 1000 N. Find the tension on the vine. Does he make it safely across the river?

m = 85.0 kg, r = 10.5 m, v = 9.00 m/s, T = ?
fc = mac, ac = v2/r, therefore fc = mv2/r

sigma f = m(v2/r)
T - mg = m(v2/r)
T - (85)(9.8) = (85)(92)/(10.5)
T - (833) = 655.714
T = 1488.71, no

Solution is wrong. Can someone point me in the right direction, or point out my mistakes? Thanks in advance!

Welcome to PF.

The only fault I can see from what is given is that there are 2 places after the decimal, when the least precision given was only 1 past the decimal.

Unless they want the answer No and a tension of 0 because the vine broke and he's swimming with the crocs.
 
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closer said:
Tarzan (m = 85.0 kg) tries to cross a river by swinging from a vine. The vine is 10.5 m long, and his speed at the bottom of the swing (as he just clears the water) is 9.00 m/s. Tarzan doesn't know that the vine has a breaking strength of 1000 N. Find the tension on the vine. Does he make it safely across the river?

m = 85.0 kg, r = 10.5 m, v = 9.00 m/s, T = ?
fc = mac, ac = v2/r, therefore fc = mv2/r

sigma f = m(v2/r)
T - mg = m(v2/r)
T - (85)(9.8) = (85)(92)/(10.5)
T - (833) = 655.714
T = 1488.71, no

Solution is wrong. Can someone point me in the right direction, or point out my mistakes? Thanks in advance!

Hi Welcome to PF! Welcome to PF! :smile:

hmm :rolleyes: … looks right to me …

have you tried just 1489 ? :smile:
 


tiny-tim said:
Hi Welcome to PF! Welcome to PF! :smile:

hmm :rolleyes: … looks right to me …

have you tried just 1489 ? :smile:

Well ... all values have at least 1 after the decimal.
 
LowlyPion said:
Well ... all values have at least 1 after the decimal.

Hi LowlyPion! :smile:

yes, but they're all 3-sig-figs …

so I thought it was worth a try! :wink:
 

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