Switch to a large company for future opportunities?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the considerations of switching from a small niche company to a larger, well-connected company, particularly in the context of career opportunities, job satisfaction, and the state of U.S. manufacturing. Participants explore the implications of company size on professional growth and the nature of work involved in both environments.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses satisfaction with their current role in mechanical design but is contemplating a move to a larger company for potential opportunities, despite concerns about the nature of the new position involving more mundane tasks.
  • Another participant raises a question about the future of U.S. manufacturing, suggesting a belief that most manufacturing has moved to China and seeking insights on this perspective.
  • A participant counters the outsourcing concern by stating that some manufacturing processes cannot be effectively outsourced and emphasizes the value of learning about manufacturing.
  • Multiple participants agree that the effectiveness of a company, whether small or large, varies greatly and is not solely dependent on size, with some advocating for the experience of working in different environments.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of outsourcing and the potential impact on U.S. manufacturing jobs, with one participant noting that the Chinese government is attempting to reduce its outsourcing role.
  • Another participant mentions the potential for international opportunities within large companies, including the possibility of relocation to countries like China.
  • Some participants share personal experiences regarding the challenges and benefits of working in companies of varying sizes, emphasizing that experiences can differ widely based on specific company circumstances rather than size alone.
  • One participant suggests considering career mobility and growth opportunities within the current small company before making a decision to switch to a larger firm.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether it is better to work in a small or large company, with multiple competing views expressed regarding the advantages and disadvantages of each. The discussion on the state of U.S. manufacturing also reveals differing opinions on the implications of outsourcing and the future of manufacturing jobs.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the ease of transitioning to a larger company and the potential for career advancement within their current roles. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions about job security, company culture, and the dynamics of the manufacturing industry.

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I am early in my career working for a small niche company right now, doing a lot of mechanical design. It seems like great experience to me; I am learning a lot about machine parts, manufacturing processes, and drawings. However, I might have an opportunity to move into a large, well-connected company. The position I applied for doesn't exactly sound great -- there is a lot of "paperwork", or mundane organization and data management. But there are definitely a lot of intellectually stimulating areas of the company that I would like to move into. And there could be some very useful and interesting things about the potential position too. One of these jobs has a lot of things going for it -- location, working environment, types of employees...but I won't say which. Because I am wondering if it is worth making the switch just for the more numerous opportunities that a large company can open up.
 
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BradP,

This may seem a bit off-topic, but I'm one of those curious types who believe that all manufacturing is now in China. I'm trying hard to disabuse myself of these ideas. Are you based in U.S.? If you are, what are your thoughts or misgivings about future of U.S. manufacturing?

Thanks,

Monte
 
Well, that is a bit off-topic :) But both the company of my current job and my prospective job do the manufacturing. I am not too worried, as there are some things that just can't be outsourced effectively. Manufacturing is where the real value is -- not just holding a place in the line of supply -- so I am more than willing to learn about manufacturing processes. Plus, if all manufacturing jobs are outsourced to China, there's nothing I can do about it. So I don't really worry.

And yeah, I'm in the U.S.
 
Hi, I am new here, and I also have a similar question. Which is better, to work in a small company or a large company?
 
Lucy66 said:
Hi, I am new here, and I also have a similar question. Which is better, to work in a small company or a large company?

It depends. There are well-run small companies, badly-run small companies, well-run large companies, and badly-run large companies.

Personally, I think it's most useful to work somewhere "different." If your last job was a small company, go to work with a large company and vice versa.
 
Monte_Carlo said:
This may seem a bit off-topic, but I'm one of those curious types who believe that all manufacturing is now in China. I'm trying hard to disabuse myself of these ideas. Are you based in U.S.? If you are, what are your thoughts or misgivings about future of U.S. manufacturing?

There are some types of manufacturing that can be outsourced, and some types that can't be. Personally, I think that everything that has gone overseas in manufacturing has already gone overseas, and curiously, the Chinese government is trying very hard to get itself *out* of the outsourcing business. The standard of living in China has risen to the point that if you talk to a factory manager in Guangdong, they are talking about how hard it is to make money because the cheap labor is gone.

That may not be such a good thing for the US. The US research university system is based on importing large numbers of Chinese and Indians, and this could be really bad if Chinese and Indians find better job opportunities at home. Also, if China goes out of manufacturing, the jobs aren't going back to the US. They'll end up in Vietnam or Indonesia.

One thing that is the case is that there is a huge demand for US schools by Chinese *undergraduates*. While this would keep the schools afloat I worry about what it will do to the US science infrastructure.
 
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BradP said:
Plus, if all manufacturing jobs are outsourced to China, there's nothing I can do about it. So I don't really worry.

You could move to China.

One of the advantages of working for a large multi-national company is that if the opportunities are in China, it's possible to get yourself moved there. One other interesting thing about working in a large company is that it gives you an international perspective on things.

For example, you go to a meeting, and you have in the back of your mind that what the company is about to do is awful because it moves jobs from the US to India. They you realize that it's going to be pointless to mention this at the meeting, because a third of the people there are Indian, and you are the only American in the room, and it's a Korean company and your boss is Swedish and his boss is Polish.
 
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twofish-quant said:
It depends. There are well-run small companies, badly-run small companies, well-run large companies, and badly-run large companies.

Personally, I think it's most useful to work somewhere "different." If your last job was a small company, go to work with a large company and vice versa.

Thanks, but I am worried that, it is not so easy to work in a large company.:cry:
 
Lucy66 said:
Thanks, but I am worried that, it is not so easy to work in a large company.:cry:

Well, I have worked in large (40,000+ employees), mid-size, and smallish (100 or so employees) companies, and my personal experience was that the small one was the worst. However, I wouldn't blame it on the company size. It was just a bad company.

I agree with twofish-quant:
It depends. There are well-run small companies, badly-run small companies, well-run large companies, and badly-run large companies.
 
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If mobility is important to you, consider your opportunities for career growth at your small company. Do positions exists that you could be promoted into? Would you have to wait for someone to retire for there to be an opening? One advantage of a larger company is that if someone wants to promote you they can usually find a place to put you.

As for US manufacturing, watch the State of the Union tomorrow.
 

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