Symbols in the equation relating work, force, and distance moved

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The discussion revolves around the equation relating work, force, and distance, specifically questioning the use of the term "distance" versus "displacement" in the context of work done by a force.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are exploring the distinction between distance and displacement in the work equation, with some suggesting that the equation should reflect displacement (s) instead of distance (d). Others question the implications of this distinction in various scenarios, such as circular motion.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their perspectives on the terminology used in the work equation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the simplifications involved in the equation W=Fd, indicating that it may not apply universally.

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There is an ongoing debate about the accuracy of conventional representations of work in physics, particularly in relation to different types of motion and the definitions of distance and displacement.

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I have been taught that work = force x distance moved in direction of force, or

W=Fd

However, should this not be W=Fs, as what is really meant is displacement (s), not distance (d)?

Thank you - I sense that this is something the real Dr Moriarty would have known...
 
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If you move in a circular trajectory on your bicycle. Do you mean to say that the total energy you have spent is 0?

I have been taught that A = Fs aswell, s is the distance traveled by the influence of the Force, so it would make no sense if the summarum is 0.
 
My question is less about the actual physics, and more about the convention - it seems to me that writing W=Fd is inaccurate, as d represents distance, not displacement (s).
 
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Hi Dr Moriarty! Welcome to PF! :smile:
Dr Moriarty said:
I have been taught that work = force x distance moved in direction of force, or

W=Fd

However, should this not be W=Fs, as what is really meant is displacement (s), not distance (d)?

The correct equation is W = ∫ F · ds

(since neither the force nor the direction of motion need be constant).

W = Fd is just a simplification which applies in some circumstances. :wink:
 

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