Symmetric Equation of Line in 3D converts to 2 Planes or 2 Lines?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between symmetric equations of lines in 3D space and their representation as planes. It is established that when a variable is omitted from the equation of a plane, it does not negate the existence of the plane but indicates that the plane is parallel to the omitted axis. The symmetric equation of a line, derived from two points (1,2,3) and (5,7,10), simplifies to two linear equations: -5x + 4y - 3 = 0 and 7y - 5z + 1 = 0. These equations represent two planes, and their intersection forms a line in 3D space.

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  • Understanding of linear equations in 2D and 3D space
  • Familiarity with vector equations and symmetric forms
  • Knowledge of plane equations in the form Ax + By + Cz + D = 0
  • Concept of intersection of planes and lines in three-dimensional geometry
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  • Study the concept of plane equations and their geometric interpretations
  • Learn about the intersection of planes and lines in 3D space
  • Explore vector equations and their applications in geometry
  • Investigate the implications of omitting variables in equations of planes
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Homework Statement



Hi,

An equation of the form Ax + By + C = 0 is a standard equation of a line in 2D.

An equation of the form Ax + By + Cz + D = 0 is an equation of a plane.

Is it possible to:

Describe a plane in space, written in standard form, such that one variable is missing from the equation?
For instance, if z = 0, then Ax + By + Cz + D = 0 becomes Ax+By+D=0.

If z = 0, then the equation of the plane can no longer describe a plane, but instead only describe a line, correct?

Reason for the question is because when a vector equation of a line described by two points, say (1,2,3) and (5,7,10), a vector equation in symmetric form can be written as such:

\frac{x-1}{4}= \frac{y-2}{5} = \frac{z-3}{7}

which simplifies to two equations which seem to describe two lines instead of two planes:

\frac{x-1}{4}= \frac{y-2}{5} = \frac{z-3}{7}

\frac{x-1}{4} =\frac{y-2}{5} and \frac{y-2}{5}= \frac{z-3}{7}-5 \big(x-1)+4 \big(y-2) = 0 and 7 \big(y-2) -5 \big(z-3) =0

-5x + 4y - 3 = 0 and 7y-5z+1 = 0

As can be seen, these are two equations of two variables. I understand this to describe two lines. One line in the xy plane and another line in the yz plane. It doesn't make sense to me that two lines intersect to make a new line. So how is it that these two seemingly linear equations are actually two equations of planes? Is it possible that I just don't understand the equation of a plane well enough?

Homework Equations

-5x + 4y - 3 = 0 and 7y-5z+1 = 0

The Attempt at a Solution



Guess #1: would be that these two equations are in fact linear equations, represent 2 lines instead of 2 planes, and I am calculating wrong to arrive a such equations.

Guess #2: would be that these two equations are actually equations of planes and due to 3 variables being utilized across 2 equations (even if each equation only contains 2 variables) some how represents two planes.


 
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Ocata said:

Homework Statement


Hi,

An equation of the form Ax + By + C = 0 is a standard equation of a line in 2D.

An equation of the form Ax + By + Cz + D = 0 is an equation of a plane.

Is it possible to:

Describe a plane in space, written in standard form, such that one variable is missing from the equation?
For instance, if z = 0, then Ax + By + Cz + D = 0 becomes Ax+By+D=0.

If z = 0, then the equation of the plane can no longer describe a plane, but instead only describe a line, correct?

No. If a variable is missing, that just means the plane is parallel to the axis of the missing variable.

Reason for the question is because when a vector equation of a line described by two points, say (1,2,3) and (5,7,10), a vector equation in symmetric form can be written as such:

\frac{x-1}{4}= \frac{y-2}{5} = \frac{z-3}{7}

which simplifies to two equations which seem to describe two lines instead of two planes:

\frac{x-1}{4}= \frac{y-2}{5} = \frac{z-3}{7}

\frac{x-1}{4} =\frac{y-2}{5} and \frac{y-2}{5}= \frac{z-3}{7}-5 \big(x-1)+4 \big(y-2) = 0 and 7 \big(y-2) -5 \big(z-3) =0

-5x + 4y - 3 = 0 and 7y-5z+1 = 0

As can be seen, these are two equations of two variables. I understand this to describe two lines. One line in the xy plane and another line in the yz plane. It doesn't make sense to me that two lines intersect to make a new line. So how is it that these two seemingly linear equations are actually two equations of planes? Is it possible that I just don't understand the equation of a plane well enough?
Yes, it is possible you need to study it a bit more. When you take any pair of the symmetric equalities they represent two planes and a point (x,y,z) is on both only if it is on their line of intersection. So the pair of equations, which are themselves representing planes, together represent their line of intersection.
 

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