Synchronous machine problem (not homework)

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The forum discussion addresses a problem from the GATE 2017 engineering exam concerning two synchronous motors, A and B, operating in parallel as synchronous condensers supplying a total reactive power of 50 MVAR at 11 kV. The synchronous reactances are 1 ohm for motor A and 3 ohms for motor B. The solution provided calculates the ratio of excitations as 0.744, which falls within the acceptable range of 0.72 to 0.78. The discussion also highlights the need for efficient problem-solving strategies to manage time effectively during the exam.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of synchronous motors and their operation as synchronous condensers.
  • Knowledge of reactive power calculations in electrical engineering.
  • Familiarity with phasor diagrams and their application in electrical problems.
  • Basic principles of the GATE exam format and time management strategies.
NEXT STEPS
  • Research advanced techniques for solving synchronous machine problems efficiently.
  • Learn about phasor diagram construction and its applications in electrical engineering.
  • Explore test-taking strategies specific to engineering exams like GATE.
  • Study the implications of synchronous reactance on system stability and performance.
USEFUL FOR

Electrical engineering students, exam candidates preparing for GATE, and professionals seeking to enhance their understanding of synchronous machines and reactive power management.

cnh1995
Homework Helper
Gold Member
Messages
3,489
Reaction score
1,163
< Mentor Note -- thread moved to HH from the technical forums, so no HH Template is shown >[/color]

Here's a question from a national-level engineering exam in India called GATE (2017).
It is for 2 marks, numerical answer type.

Two synchronous motors A and B in parallel with identical O.C. characteristics are acting as synchronous condensers and supply a total reactive power of 50MVAR to the grid. The grid is operating at 11kV. If the synchronous reactances of A and B are 1 ohm and 3 ohm respectively and current through both the machines is the same, find the ratio of excitations of A and B i.e. excitation of A/excitation of B.

I got the answer as 0.744 and it is correct. (The answer key says anything in the range 0.72 to 0.78 is acceptable).

Here is my solution:
Since the machines are acting as synchronous condensers, active power is zero, which means power angle for both the machines is zero.

So, we can write the equation for reactive power as,
EA*11-112+EB*11/3-112/3=50.
This simplifies to,

33EA+11EB=634...1)

Since both the currents are same,
EA-11=(EB-11)/3
which simplifies to

3EA-EB=22...2)

Solving 1) and 2) gives EA=13.27 kV and Eb=17.82kV.
So, their ratio is 0.744.
(I did not convert line quantities into phase quantities as the equations are scaled down by a factor of 3, which gets canceled out and we again get the equation in terms of line quantities).
Is there a simpler and faster way of doing it?

Because these calculations take time, while the expected time is roughly 2.7 minutes/problem. There are 65 questions and you get 3 hrs.
Of course no one attempts all the questions but still, the maximum time you can afford to spend on a question is 4-5 minutes and they asked this question for only 2 marks. Is there any short-cut or some conceptual trick? This exam is all about using conceptual tricks and short cuts and the way I solved it, it is worth at least 6 marks.

Any help is appreciated.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
You may want to do more research on this particular test. You should definitely consider employing some test taking strategies, which ensure that you do not get bogged down taking too much time on some questions (especially in relation to their point values).
 
Thanks @berkeman for moving the thread here. And I'm glad that after drawing a couple of phasor diagrams, I found a much easier way to do it. It does save a lot of time!:smile:We know Q=50MVAR.
So,
Q=S=VI
∴I=Q/V i.e I=50/11 kA.
Since I=IA+IB and IA=IB,
IA=IB=50/22 kA.Since the network is reactive and active power is zero, EA, EB and grid voltage 11kV are all in phase.
So,
EA/EB=(11+50*1/11)/(11+50*3/11)=292/392=0.744

This looks like the most obvious way of doing it:-p. Don't know why I complicated it earlier..o:)

I'll mark it solved now.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: jim hardy and berkeman

Similar threads

Replies
1
Views
3K
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
16K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K