System of ODEs independent solutions

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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution for a system of ordinary differential equations (ODEs) represented by a matrix. The specific problem involves determining independent solutions based on eigenvalues and eigenvectors.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of eigenvalues and eigenvectors, with one participant expressing confusion about finding a second independent solution. There is also mention of the Wronskian and its role in verifying independence of solutions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the solutions and the relationship between the eigenvectors and the general solution. There is acknowledgment of the simplicity of the problem, but also a recognition of the need for further understanding regarding independent solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the definitions and implications of independent solutions within the context of a two-variable system of differential equations, with some uncertainty about the application of the Wronskian.

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Homework Statement


so I'm trying to find the general solution of this problem:
\mathbf {x'} = \begin{bmatrix} 2 & 0\\0 & 2\end{bmatrix}\mathbf{x}


Homework Equations


det(A- rI) = 0


The Attempt at a Solution


det(A - rI) = det \begin{bmatrix} 2-r &amp; 0 \\ 0 &amp; 2-r \end{bmatrix} =<br /> (2-r)^{2} = 0 \Rightarrow r = 2
A - 2I = \begin{bmatrix} 0 &amp; 0 \\ 0 &amp; 0 \end{bmatrix} \ \ \
So since the nullspace is \mathbb{R}^{2} Two linearly independent eigenvectors are:
\mathbf{v_{1}} = \begin{bmatrix} 1 \\ 0 \end{bmatrix} \ \ \ \ \mathbf{v_{2}} = \begin{bmatrix} 0 \\1 \end{bmatrix}

So this is where i get confused :p. One solution is of course \mathbf{x_1} = e^{2t}\begin{bmatrix}1 \\ 0 \end{bmatrix} However when i tried to find a solution such that \mathbf{x_2} = te^{2t} \begin{bmatrix}1 \\ 0 \end{bmatrix}(\mathbf{a}t + \mathbf{b}) It comes out inconsistent so I'm guessing that's not what you're supposed to do in this case. Another idea i had was that \mathbf{x_2} = e^{2t} \begin{bmatrix}0\\1\end{bmatrix} is also an independent solution since the vector is linearly independent from the other solution, but I'm not entirely sure how to verify this by the wronskian for a system of equations.
 
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bmxicle said:
One solution is of course \mathbf{x_1} = e^{2t}\begin{bmatrix}1 \\ 0 \end{bmatrix}
bmxicle said:
Another idea i had was that \mathbf{x_2} = e^{2t} \begin{bmatrix}0\\1\end{bmatrix} is also an independent solution since the vector is linearly independent from the other solution
That is the solution.

You get the "normal modes" of this two-variable system in the form of an eigenvector multiplied by the same exp(rt).

ehild
 
hmmm ok, I that makes enough sense, though need to do some more reading. Can you compute the wronskian as the determinant of the matrix of the spanning vectors, ie. W = e^{4t} \neq 0
 
:confused: You do say you are only trying to find the solution. But if I have not misunderstood this is almost trivial - you have two independent elementary d.e.'s, x1' = 2x1, x2' = 2x2.

If instead you are trying to show it works out in accord with the Higher Theory, Wronskians etc. then I forget these between times and cannot help. :redface:
 
yes well looking at it now it definitely is almost trivial. I'm just a little hazy as to what constitutes an indepedent solution to a system of equations I guess.
 

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